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2015/01/21 22:45:42
Drone7
 
 
1: I need to know if all the sounds included with Sonar are 24bit 96Khz samples or 16bit 44.1Khz samples or a combination of both. And if a combination of both, is there any way to tell when we use Sonar sounds if we are using the 16bit or 24bit samples?
 
2: Are there any compressed sounds included with Sonar, meaning MP3/AAC etc? I'm not saying i want compressed sounds, i'm just wanting to know because i never use compressed sounds as a basis for any of my tracks, and i don't wish to use them. No song can expect to start with compressed sounds and still expect to sound decent after the song is compressed again into MP3 or AAC or whatever.
 
3: I know that Roland used RDAC compression for all of their sounds in the XV-1080 and XV-5080 sound modules and the XP-80 workstation synths etc, and these sounds found there way into the Roland Groove-synth inside Sonar, so did these sounds retain their Roland RDAC compression when used for the Roland Goove-synth inside Sonar or did Roland provide the original uncompressed WAV files of these sounds? 
2015/01/21 23:49:37
AT
It depends on the meaning of "sounds."
 
If you mean all sounds - well, DimPro and Rapture both come w/ flac samples.
 
But the other loops and such are 16 bit, 44.1 or higher, I believe. The ones I've checked, anyway, which isn't all the hundreds of loops etc. that comes w/ Cake.  And even if they aren't squeezed, I couldn't tell the diff and you can always up sample them if you are worried about different formats causing trouble.
 
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2015/01/22 15:36:27
Drone7
Can anyone give me a more specific or definite answer?
2015/01/22 16:35:22
Sanderxpander
It will depend on the instrument/sample and for the most part you won't be able to tell without looking for the samples in Explorer. I don't think there would be any 24/96 samples.

It's also completely irrelevant.
2015/01/22 16:51:56
Drone7
Sanderxpander

It's also completely irrelevant.



 
Not in my books!
 
And you forgot to say "IMO"
 
If you're suggesting that there's no difference between an MP3 and an uncompressed WAV file, i feel sorry for you.
 
 
For anyone else who cares, i still haven't had my questions answered and i would like to know! Cakewalk?
2015/01/22 16:59:37
Beepster
Drone7
Sanderxpander

It's also completely irrelevant.



 
Not in my books!
 
And you forgot to say "IMO"
 
If you're suggesting that there's no difference between an MP3 and an uncompressed WAV file, i feel sorry for you.




They are not all uniform but it is easy enough to check the bit depth/samplerate on a case by case basis.
 
Also that was terribly rude and I doubt that's what he was suggesting. The point (I think) he was making was that Sonar will automatically import at whatever the project is using and really, in most cases, it truly is difficult if not impossible to tell the difference once you start working with them. If you find one that isn't cutting it then just don't use it.
2015/01/22 17:00:02
Sanderxpander
Since this is the internet, everything should be considered as "IMO". Thanks for your pity, but I'm quite confident about my ability to discern usable sounds. I didn't suggest anything of the kind by the way.
2015/01/22 17:04:11
Sanderxpander
Beepster
The point (I think) he was making was that Sonar will automatically import at whatever the project is using and really, in most cases, it truly is difficult if not impossible to tell the difference once you start working with them. If you find one that isn't cutting it then just don't use it.

This.

I won't hesitate to use an MP3 if it sounds good enough, nor will I hesitate to dismiss a WAV that sounds bad. Sonar comes with a host of instruments and loops, a large part of them third party. They are not uniform and since the ultimate usability is determined much more by sound quality than file format, it's kinda pointless to discuss this.

IMO, of course.
2015/01/22 17:09:45
Sanderxpander
Let alone the irony of needing some information on the screen to tell you whether the sample you're hearing is good quality, and afterwards coding the entire thing to MP3.
2015/01/22 17:17:05
michael diemer
IMO, an mp3 file of the highest fidelity is so close to wave that you have to be somewhat obsessive-compulsive to really care all that much. IMO.
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