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2015/01/22 20:24:16
Splat
BTW did you hear that Chris Rea and Dire Straits are getting together, they aren't going to call the band "Chris Straights"...
2015/01/22 20:28:46
SteveStrummerUK
Readire?
2015/01/22 20:39:22
Splat
Exactly 
2015/01/22 20:39:54
Drone7
SteveStrummerUK
@Drone7
 I don't understand the hostility.
 
I could use a $2 microphone and record a .wav sample in the field onto a $30 digital recorder. By your logic, that sample will sound 'better' than an mp3 of the same sound source created in a professional studio.




I'm not being hostile. I'm being defensive, big difference!
 
Also, you're distorting and misconstuing my assertions, so i'll set the record straight... 'Any' uncompressed sound in the form of WAV, all other things being equal, will ALWAYS sound better than an MP3, that's what i'm sayin.
 
But also, have you heard how most of the songs from the seventies and eighties survive data-compression better than most of the modern stuff? That's because the older stuff didn't have any MP3's waveforms to begin with, and thus only suffered one round of compression when turned into an MP3. However, a lot of modern songs that have MP3 or waveforms in them already, then get smashed to bits AGAIN into another MP3 and argggghhh, what a mess! If you can't hear the difference, good lick to you. If you're not a 'quality' conscious person, that's your business! But not on my ship!
2015/01/22 20:45:34
Splat
Umm I worked on 2" tape in the 80's and 90's. We mastered to half inch. Occasionally it got mastered on DAT (less said about that the better - yuk!). Most people here knows the effects of lossy compression so you really aren't telling us anything new.


I would not want my masters to go through MP3 compression of course.
 
Recording is a different matter, the sampler they used for this record for instance might horrify you, but it still sounds great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sFK0-lcjGU
 
... the final mix (which was done just around the corner from me) was probably bounced to half inch.
And as stated over and over again of course people prefer better sample formats..
2015/01/22 20:50:58
michael diemer
Of course wave sounds better than mp3. but if you are uploading to a forum where they only accept mp3, and you use the best process to make the best mp3  that will meet their size limitations, all I'm saying is that to me, that's acceptable. I wasn't arguing that mp3 should ever be used in a professional product to be released commercially!
 
This is a tempest in a teapot.
2015/01/22 20:54:49
Splat
Drone7
Also, you're distorting and misconstuing my assertions, so i'll set the record straight... 'Any' uncompressed sound in the form of WAV, all other things being equal, will ALWAYS sound better than an MP3, that's what i'm sayin.
 

 
Technically yes, but if the sound of compression gives you the results you want then who cares. Given a choice between a great band performance compressed on MP3 and crap band recorded on WAV I know what I'd prefer to listen to, and that's the real point, and that rule goes from top up to bottom down during the recording process. Performance is the key.
 
Still I would always prefer to use WAV's of course....
2015/01/22 20:55:52
dappa1
Im thinking of getting X3 when it comes out and I will use that as a 64bit platform!
 
 
 
http://youtu.be/FRaUrz_MZzM Bredren for Life!
 
2015/01/22 20:56:58
Splat
64 bit sounds better than 32 bit 
 
Just kidding!!!
2015/01/22 22:07:54
rabeach
CakeAlexS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sFK0-lcjGU

I cannot condone the stomping of violins...:-)
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