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  • Missing plugins after new install
2015/01/21 13:56:30
Deanahguitarist
Hey chaps! Just a follow up post to address an issue I have had with my new 64 bit install!
 
Some members on here already know that I went from a 32bit version of Sonar 8.5.3 to the 64bit version!
 
However, my old setup was from years ago and so my plugins folders were really messy and jumbled up! I had folders within folders and in multiple locations all over the C drive instead of just one folder like Steinberg/Vsts
 
Having this new install has made me want to tidy everything up for when I move to knew PCs in the future etc......So when installing the new 64bit versions on my vst's I also "Copied" the old folders and vsts from my "messy" previous Sonar and put them neatly within ONE folder on my C/Program/VSTS folder
 
However as you can imagine when I went to load an old project, I got the MISSING plugins warning!
 
Its real frustrating because they are not missing they are simply NOT in the location that Sonar expects to see them!
 
I have just spent an hour creating new menu layouts from the plugins that are in my new "neat" vst folder, and I am well aware that I can just scan the "old messy" locations and it will find them and my old projects will load up fine! The problem is that this will create multiple versions of the same plugins and therefore we are back to MESSY again!
 
My question is, is there anyway around this? Just off the top of my head, a sonar project must contain information on the location of the plugins, which is why I am having this missing plugins warning! So is there anyway to tamper with this? Some way to edit this information so I can adjust where its "looking" for plugins?
 
Or maybe a better solution that you guys can think of? Or am I gonna have to pay the ultimate price for not being neat and tidy all those years ago when I started on Sonar?
 
 
 
 
2015/01/22 09:57:18
Deanahguitarist
Hey chaps! At the very least is there any way of finding out "Where" exactly sonar is expecting to find these plugins that it says is missing?
 
I am at the stage where its telling me plugins are missing, even though they are stored (probably in a different folder than sonar espects them) If I could only find out WHERE its expecting to see them, I could move them to the correct folder so that my projects will open up correctly
 
 
2015/01/22 10:13:51
LunaTech
Hi DeanahGuitarist,
 
Please ensure that your new folder is iisted in Sonar's VST Scan folder path.  This can be found under preferences in the VST section . Then you can try a 'reset' and rescan all vst's. IHTH....
 
2015/01/22 10:18:56
Deanahguitarist
Hi LunaTech!
 
Thanks for the response! Yep the new folder is listed however my old sonar projects are expecting to see the vsts in a specific folder! (I was hoping they would give me a message like - Missing plugin - please choose from the nearest match below) 
 
Unfortunalty this doesnt happen, instead the project file is expecting to see the vsts in a specific folder, I just need to somehow find out what folder that is so that I can put it there! Hope that makes sense
2015/01/22 10:24:03
reginaldStjohn
I think if the dlls are in a different location your are going to have to go through and update (delete,re-add) your plugins. You can try to open a plugin-layout file in a text editor and see if there is any information in there but I have not tried this.
 
good luck
2015/01/22 11:56:33
scook
Are the plug-ins missing VSTs or missing 32bit DirectX plug-ins. Since this is a recent move from 32bit to 64bit SONAR, is it possible the missing plug-ins are not available because 64bit versions do not exist. This can happen with DirectX plug-ins because they are host specific. IOW, there is no bridge for DirectX plug-ins and some were not ported to 64bit.
2015/01/22 12:19:02
Deanahguitarist
Hey Scook!
 
Its strange because I went from a 32 bit Sonar to 64 bit
 
Have some 64 bit vsts but I have made sure the plugin manager has scanned the OLD 32bit vst folder so that my old projects will still load like they used to!
 
However, despite the folders being in the same place as they were before, my projects are still showing that they are missing? I have scanned multiple times but for some reason its showing that they are missing!
 
Weird thing is they are NOT missing, in fact, I can call up a new session and choose the same old 32bit vsts that I used to, however its my old projects that are not loading properly due to the fact it THINKS the plugins are missing
 
If only there were some way to edit INSIDE the project file to point the missing plugins to where they are indeed located!
2015/01/22 12:47:34
scook
The location of VSTs does not matter as long the scanner can find them. Plug-in paths are not stored projects.
2015/01/22 13:09:27
Deanahguitarist
Hmmm Thats strange! In your opinion what do you think the problem could be?
 
For example I just tried to open an old project that has BFD1 as the drum software, upon loading it tells me that BFD is missing, however it is NOT missing because I can load it up fine from the menu and it works 100%
2015/01/22 13:18:54
Unknowen
I have had this same issue, its some funky way Sonar 8 and X3 and now platinum's VSTs are linked.
Are the plugins that are missing older plugins that belong with the Cakewalk family?
I can never see them in X3 64 bit... But all show up in X3 32 bit mode... I don't know how this will word for platinum 32 bit, in 64 bit they don't show up.   
 
peace!
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