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  • Does Mix Recall not record changes to audio tracks and data? (p.8)
2015/01/20 09:06:23
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
P-Theory
Any thoughts on my comments around buses and routing Noel, is that too big an ask?



I think it mostly does what you want it to do except that it won't create the buses for you. Is it a problem to ensure that the buses exist in all versions of the scenes for you?
2015/01/20 09:08:39
P-Theory
Sorry we got out of sync message wise then.  Mix recall doesn't bring back routing on my system.  I'll try and get a video for you
2015/01/20 09:11:05
P-Theory
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
 
I think it mostly does what you want it to do except that it won't create the buses for you. Is it a problem to ensure that the buses exist in all versions of the scenes for you?




No that wouldn't be a problem because I could just set up tons of buses in the initial project template and whether I used them or not they would be there.  But Mix recall definitely doesn't recall bus routing on my system at the moment. Just trying to get a screen capture downloaded so I can upload a video
2015/01/20 09:16:06
Sanderxpander
southpaw3473
Sanderxpander
Select all, "Tracks" menu (arrange view), "bounce to track(s)"?


Not too sure what that means. What is "arrange view?"

Sorry, "arrange view" is the name used in many other DAWs for what is in Sonar called "track view". It's the main working window, the one with an overview of your arrangement and tracks.
2015/01/20 09:56:17
southpaw3473
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
southpaw3473
What I want to know is if this will allow me to recall "scenes" during playback. I could do this on an old Yamaha digital standalone recorder (AW4416) which had an O1V mixing board integrated. I loved the feature.
 
For instance, at the chorus of a song I get all my basic settings and levels down for that part and create a scene which includes all its settings (automation, levels, pan, effects levels, etc). I save it as CHORUS. When the chorus comes up later in the song I use the scene recall and insert the CHORUS scene. All the chorus settings drop in at that point. It is wicked helpful with very complex mixes with lots of time changes and moving parts.
 
That's the "scene" idea but I always found it extremely handy. It doesn't seem that the new Mix Recall does that.



You are talking about sequencing scenes here. I understand what you are saying but in a DAW its far more natural to use automation rather than swapping in a whole new set of parameters using a scene. I don't see any advantage of changing automation and levels this way rather than recording automation. It would be pretty hard to understand what your mix will do otherwise.
 


Noel,
The only advantage is it's a time saver. Instead of having to change all the individual parameters for a particular part of the song each time it occurs in a song a scene change does it all at one time. Not essential ( I haven't worked with the old O1V mixers in almost a decade) but it was a handy feature.
 
And just to add, I cannot wait for tomorrow!
2015/01/20 10:14:59
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
It would have to be sequenced since recalling a scene can potentially cause gaps or glitches in realtime playback depending on what is being restored
2015/01/20 10:20:13
southpaw3473
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
It would have to be sequenced since recalling a scene can potentially cause gaps or glitches in realtime playback depending on what is being restored

It was just sequencer data essentially. It didn't change audio or delete clips. But it would recall a raft of settings at one time.
2015/01/20 10:20:26
P-Theory
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
P-Theory
Oh its definitely a cool feature and I've used it a lot already as my workflow is basically the same as you've described.  I think the only bit that would make this Mix recall perfect for me would be if it recognised and restored buses and associated routing as well because they are nothing to do with the core data / wav files and are just a routing mechanism.



Mix recall does restore routing but it requires the target buses to exist in the project today. We may enhance it to restore missing buses...




Hi Noel
 
Here is a video showing that it doesn't recall routing for me (unless I'm doing something wrong?)
 
Thanks
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s...0rouitn%20AVI.avi?dl=0
2015/01/20 10:28:10
Anderton
southpaw3473
The only advantage is it's a time saver. Instead of having to change all the individual parameters for a particular part of the song each time it occurs in a song a scene change does it all at one time. Not essential ( I haven't worked with the old O1V mixers in almost a decade) but it was a handy feature.



Do snapshot automation, then copy and paste the snapshot automation nodes wherever you want them.
2015/01/20 10:35:31
southpaw3473
Craig, IIRC don't you have to do a snapshot of each individual parameter, i.e. volume, pan, effects send, etc? That is why I never really used it. I don't think you can hit Ctrl-A and then hit Snapshot, right?
 
 
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