Ryan, thank you for your reply. I understand you have a lot of work to do to change the way you distribute your product, but new web store or web site or forum have nothing to do with the software functionality. We goy slightly off the topic- my title says- it would be helpful to know more about the team and know when experience the teas, in order to fell comfortable to sign up for the subscription-based service and pay ahead for the features that may or may not be released one day. Thank you for explaining your vision. I am touched by the response and about to go and pay my due and order my New Sonar. The complaints are related to the feeling of disappointment when you realize that after paying the money, there will be no immediate inspiration and improvement. Also I can but new toys from 3rd party any time, it would be nice if Cakewalk offered something that would blow away Abelton and others. And what are they having in it that makes it so popular? What ever it is- we like to have it so nobody can tell us- our software is outdated. You are right- I do not use all features- I only use what I need to do what I am doing. The good thing about Sonar is that VST support is stable. The bad thing is- MIDI works poorly. Can you explain why the Beat Tweaker starts playing suddenly when I am working on another track with another output assigned to different plugin? Why the midi signal leaking to other MIDI tracks? I try that blue button in every position. The other day I had few instances of Nemesis, and MIDI data from the MIDI tracks was triggering wrong MIDI instruments. That is so distractive.

Also, Ctrl+I doesn't work on a simple instrument track that's in the Midi tab, but indeed that's a much less severe deficiency. Thanks!

yevster
Wow, you're right! But only on a MIDI track, not a MIDI tab of an instrument track. Facepalm.

Right click on your instrument track and select Split Instrument track. As an advanced user, I do not recommend using instruments tracks, they are overly simplified. Instead, when I open up an instrument, I select audio track, midi track, and track folder. You can collapse the folder when you are done, and it takes up no more room than the instrument track. The drawback is that you can't have folders within folders, but I'm sure they're gonna fix that. Right, Cakewalk? Right?
 
I answered your question about the tempo track above, if you didn't see it.
 
What problems are you having with the ACT? Sure, the control panel is ugly, but it works, and you only have to configure it once.

Spencer
 
Press ALT+SHIFT+5 to access the tempo track. Or, open it from the Project View menu (not the Track View menu).

The tempo view in Sonar is not a tempo track. A tempo track appears as a track in the track view alongside the audio and instrument tracks. 

Spencer

yevster
Wow, you're right! But only on a MIDI track, not a MIDI tab of an instrument track. Facepalm.

Right click on your instrument track and select Split Instrument track. As an advanced user, I do not recommend using instruments tracks, they are overly simplified. Instead, when I open up an instrument, I select audio track, midi track, and track folder. You can collapse the folder when you are done, and it takes up no more room than the instrument track. The drawback is that you can't have folders within folders, but I'm sure they're gonna fix that. Right, Cakewalk? Right?
 
I answered your question about the tempo track above, if you didn't see it.

Having two tracks for each instrument part is a huge pain. I've had to live with that approach before Sonar 8 and I don't want to go back. Every other DAW deals with instrument tracks just fine. Only in Sonar, where the instrument track is a Frankentrack of a midi and audio track, does one run into issues.

I always use MIDI and AUDIO tracks for Soft Synth. I would not even know how to open synth in Instrument track. I go to "Insert soft synth" in the top menu and it makes me 2 tracks and opens synth window. Was I supposed to insert them differently?

yevster
The tempo view in Sonar is not a tempo track. A tempo track appears as a track in the track view alongside the audio and instrument tracks.

I would argue that it is a track, because you can see the time ruler in it, and even the markers. It is indeed a bit annoying that it doesn't visually sync with the track view on its own, but you could do that manually. Just set up markers in track view, insert a new tempo at the marker location, then you can use the Draw Line tool to make a smooth transition. It also responds to Snap.

Hey Vladasyn, do you mind adding your thoughts or even copy an paste youy above post into my feature request. I'd like to see it bumped and gain some added interest. The more ideas we get on that thread and discussion, the greater the chance of Cake creating something fantastic.
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com...-Plug-in-m3123368.aspx

vladasyn
I always use MIDI and AUDIO tracks for Soft Synth. I would not even know how to open synth in Instrument track. I go to "Insert soft synth" in the top menu and it makes me 2 tracks and opens synth window. Was I supposed to insert them differently?

It's fine to do it that way if you're happy with it. If you want to save space in your track view, you can choose "Simple Instrument Track" in the "Insert Soft Synth Options" dialog. Then, you only get one track that incorporates both the MIDI and the audio track functionality. But as Spencer alluded to earlier, this functionality is far from flawless.

Vladasyn again you say "The complaints are related to the feeling of disappointment when you realize that after paying the money, there will be no immediate inspiration and improvement."

Are you for real. I'm really annoyed by your continual disinformation. Since X3 was released there have been improvements and features and bug fixes being developed. Much of that work will be released in this new Sonar. You just can't seem to get it Into your head that there IS new and exiting inspiring stuff in this release from day one. As well as that, features that are not ready yet will be released when they are ready instead of being saved up for one big annual version update. Grrr
Every thread I go to you're there with this constant being disappointed by having to pay upfront for nothing immediate. It's really taking the shine off the efforts from the Cakewalk guys