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  • DISASTER [SOLVED]! Please help me find and restore my LOST audio clips. X3e (p.3)
2015/01/17 13:31:46
clintmartin
Ooops, I left for a while...sorry. The guys gave you far more info than I could have anyway. Glad you got it sorted out. If I were you I would start a new project and drag those .wav files there. That's what I did.
2015/01/17 13:54:00
Beepster
scook
The media browser browser can show sortable detail columns too.





Oh, yeah. That's awesome. I wasn't even thinking about cruising around these files from within the browser. I was just going to drag them in the old clunky Windows way but if this works it should be significantly easier.
 
Problem is that these are all takes of the exact same same part and... well I play pretty tight so the comp was more to sort out VERY subtle nuances. It's gonna be hard to decipher what's what but the dates might help and if I undock the browser I can cross reference the numbers in parentheses in the title with the dates recorded.
 
IDK... I gotta paly with it.
 
Great stuff, guys.
2015/01/17 15:04:36
Beepster
Okay, waves imported from the Browser which was super handy (thanks, scook).
 
Just a question for future reference... fortunately these takes were recorded starting at 00:00:00 so I could just drag them into their original lanes then once they populated the lane I could drag them to 00:00:00 (selecting the clip in the Browser, right clicking and selecting "Import at Now Time" created a new lane which I did not want because I had notes on the original lanes).
 
In the past when I've imported files I had exported from my old DAW they magically landed at their appropriate spots on the timeline in Sonar (because I had Import at Original Timestamp selected in my Prefs). When I did this I was importing them using the global File > Import function. Is there a way to mimic this when importing files from the Browser? I poked around and did not see anything. I also hoped selecting a take lane would import the wave into that take but it still created a new take lane.
 
This is probably old hat for you guys but I do very little advanced importing. I mostly just record into Sonar or drag things where I want them but obviously in cases like this it'd be nice if stuff landed at original timestamp locations when needed. Maybe that info isn't printed on the wav until it is rendered.
 
Anyway... no emergency. Just curious. I'm trudging along back to where I was at before thanks to your help.
 
Kind of hoping I may be able to create proper selection groups now too with the freshly imported raw waves. About to try that now.
 
Cheers.
2015/01/17 16:01:06
John
They would need to be Broadcast wave files for there to be a timestamp. Sonar can create broadcast wave files. Its not the default though.   
2015/01/17 16:50:32
Sheanes
in my folders, the auto saved files have the date/time in the filename.....just have to make this collumn wide enough to see it....can read the time and in my folders they're listed logically on time created.
project name.cwp.~2015-01-10-23-37-03-371 ->   (10th jan 2015 23hrs37mins and 371 ticks/samples or what not)
but I myself face another prob, when I try to open such a file, it only let's my choose X1, cannot choose X3.
that will be some windows related thing...
 
anyway, good luck
2015/01/17 16:56:07
Beepster
John
They would need to be Broadcast wave files for there to be a timestamp. Sonar can create broadcast wave files. Its not the default though.   




D'oh... yeah that makes sense. Thanks.
2015/01/17 17:04:18
Beepster
Sheanes
in my folders, the auto saved files have the date/time in the filename.....just have to make this collumn wide enough to see it....can read the time and in my folders they're listed logically on time created.
project name.cwp.~2015-01-10-23-37-03-371 ->   (10th jan 2015 23hrs37mins and 371 ticks/samples or what not)
but I myself face another prob, when I try to open such a file, it only let's my choose X1, cannot choose X3.
that will be some windows related thing...
 
anyway, good luck




I think there's just a bulk default Windows setting that was preventing the date from showing in my Explorer window. I had to show it manually like the guys described earlier. I tried dragging the divider lines around as you said first but the Date column just wasn't there unfortunately.
 
As far as your issue it sounds like maybe your Windows settings or whatever is only allowing files to be opened by the program that created them or that may have been set up when you were installing Sonar. Do your waves show an X1 icon beside them or the little WAV icon? Mine shows the WAV icon. Still I'd imagine X3 would be smart enough to access those files anyway if you opened the project they are associated with. I have however had some crummy behavior when trying to work with old projects in my newer versions which is why I generally just finish things up in the version the project was started in. If I REALLY want to get the files into a newer version I'll export the tracks then import them into a new project. That never fails.
 
And just out of curiosity... when you right click on the WAVs and choose "Open With" do the files not allow you to open them with WinMediaPlayer or other music players?
 
Cheers.
2015/01/17 17:06:03
gswitz
It is possible to uncover deleted objects on a hard drive. I've done it in the case of a memory card from a camera being wiped out. I used Linux to do the trick. Basically, I booted to Linux, put in the memory card and had it read all the memory on the card and look for objects.
 
On a hard drive, this will be a massive enterprise because you will find SOOOO MANY OBJECTS!
 
http://www.byclouder.com/products/recovery/audio-file-recovery.html
 
This claims to be able to do the trick for WAVE files.
2015/01/17 17:30:29
Sheanes
Beepster hope you have your project back now....
 
When exporting your old projects out of Sonar to wave files and then importing them in your latest Sonar version will add 1 x the import and export latency.
 
yes I can open 'm in media player etc, and in X1....when I choose the X3.exe file it adds another X1....and when deleting X1.exe from my computer I still can't open in X3.
I have everything in 1 folder 'Sonar' with many subfolders, so I copy that to an external drive every sundaynight....so worst case I loose a week....but sometimes I wished I could have opened the autosave copy...
 
 
2015/01/17 17:36:41
johnnyV
You right click on the info bar and can add or subtract any of the details. This goes back to W98 I think. 
The defaults are stupid like Artist? Album and stuff. Just uncheck all the useless ones and add the ones you need. 
Sort by Type - Handy for separating MP3 from Wave files 
Sort by Size used to be a good way to look for large files that are wasting space. 
And sort by date has always been a great way to find lost files if you happen to know the date. 
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