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2015/01/14 09:26:56
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Unfortunately agile has become like a religion for some people and they think its the solution to all problems.
Without understanding the good parts of waterfall and top down design process, agile can become an excuse for the wild west style of development and easily lead to chaos.
2015/01/14 09:30:54
gswitz
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
John Wayne
2015/01/14 09:31:38
bitflipper
I guess I've been agile since I started my business in 1993, because I am a development team of one. My meetings are conducted standing, because most of them take place in the shower.
2015/01/14 09:36:08
gswitz
Suddenly afraid I might offend someone, I'm making a follow up post. I just searched out John Wayne quotes when Noel mentioned the Wild West. This was the first one that made me smile.
 
It isn't targeted at anyone. Just a funny.
 
2015/01/14 09:38:43
gswitz
The great Noel B!
and easily lead to chaos.

Isn't Captain Chaos the alter-ego of Butters in South Park? :-)
 
2015/01/14 11:09:29
Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
gswitz
The great Noel B!
and easily lead to chaos.

Isn't Captain Chaos the alter-ego of Butters in South Park? :-)
 

 
That's Professor Chaos. 
2015/01/14 11:56:58
redbarchetta
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Unfortunately agile has become like a religion for some people and they think its the solution to all problems.
Without understanding the good parts of waterfall and top down design process, agile can become an excuse for the wild west style of development and easily lead to chaos.


Yes, exactly.  
2015/01/14 16:11:27
SuperG
redbarchetta
ooohhh.. As a software engineer myself, I hate agile.  Well, let me rephrase that. Once a base product is complete, then it's ok........ I guess.........  
 
To me agile is nothing more than giving the business free reign to constantly change requirements/feature creep, forcing developers to constantly go back and change, rewrite, code.  Tooo easy to create a spaghetti factory. 
 
If you don't have good scrum masters, it's a developers worst nightmare. In fact our agile methodologies were so pathetic, I got so frustrated and found a new job within my company as far away as I possibly could.  




 
Me too.
 
I understand Agile where can make a difference, but it's not always a good fit. In the embedded world, Agile can ruffle a lot of feathers. Not only software development, but hardware as well.
 
I suppose if you're working with a internet/web based project where you're constantly chasing a moving target, agile makes more sense. Better to make smaller commitments that you can keep than large ones. But that's all it really is - breaking down larger promises into smaller ones. It makes everybody feel better, but it doesn't mean it's an improvement over waterfall methodologies. It just a short term methodology for a short term business plan.
2015/01/14 18:55:29
redbarchetta
SuperG
Me too
It just a short term methodology for a short term business plan.

Never thought about it that way but yes.
2015/01/14 18:59:35
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
bitflipper
I guess I've been agile since I started my business in 1993, because I am a development team of one. My meetings are conducted standing, because most of them take place in the shower.



Isn't that waterfall rather than agile? :P
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