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  • My "Stupid Pilot Error" Lesson for Today
2014/12/29 15:24:25
Anderton
Short form...there's a reason why the "help" button exists on dialog boxes: You click it when you need help!  
 
I was working on developing a loop library and there were about 50 tracks with all the loops cut into phrases - lot of cuts. I started getting audio dropouts, so I increased the latency. Didn't solve the problem.
 
So I "Saved As" and deleted a bunch of tracks. Solved the problem for a couple minutes.
 
Then when the Audio Dropout warning box appeared for the umpteenth time, I noticed it had a "Help" button. Doh. I clicked it, and it suggested changing buffer settings and if that didn't work, to try the next thing. Well  buffer settings weren't the answer, but then it mentioned audio fragmentation. My project was about as fragmented as could be without having a monkey hitting Split endlessly while moving the mouse around. Mr. Help (or maybe Ms. Help) said to save as a bundle file and re-open. I did. End of audio dropouts.
 
Now, how many times did I see that help button on the Audio Dropout box? I'd tell you, but I've embarrassed myself sufficiently already. You can lead a horse to water...
 
 
2014/12/29 15:27:26
Splat
I don't need pilot error to be stupid myself...
2014/12/29 15:33:35
John
We men don't need no stinking help..... button!!!!
2014/12/29 21:56:19
BlixYZ
awesome.  we've all had those moments fo sho.
2014/12/29 22:10:57
mudgel
How many times have we tried to help someone with drop out issues ourselves included. YET I've never heard that particular fix. You know we make the comment " my systems working OK so it's not Sonar but something wrong with your setup. Maybe the audio files are fragmented and this would fix those issues. Just saying.
2014/12/29 22:24:41
Jeff Evans
I tend to keep an eye out on the fragmentation of my audio drive. It is definitely worth it. I have definitely seen situations (in Studio One) where the CPU meter was fine but the disc meter suddenly went ape and audio dropouts resulted.  After a complete defrag the disc meter dropped to zero.  No issues again for months.
 
I find it is good to just defrag your audio drive on a regular basis eg weekly etc.. I also find it is better to use a smaller audio drive eg 80/250 Gig and backup projects onto DVD etc and put them to bed as soon as they are done.  That way the audio drive is always barely used. eg I might only ever have 15 Gig on there at any one time. It also means defrags get done super fast too.
 
 
2014/12/30 01:40:36
konradh
A long time ago, I was working on a help desk temporarily when someone called with a question.  I said, "That's on page 12 of the manual."  He said, "I don't have time to read the manual," to which I replied, "And yet you think I have time to read it to you?"  That was not well-received, so I started telling people their problems were ID-10-T errors.
 
That was stupid of me since I am the king of asking dumb questions and overlooking help and manual information.  I have grown up a little since then.
2014/12/30 03:33:02
Bristol_Jonesey
Only a little I hope Konrad 
2014/12/30 13:55:15
kitekrazy1
Anderton
Short form...there's a reason why the "help" button exists on dialog boxes: You click it when you need help!  
 
I was working on developing a loop library and there were about 50 tracks with all the loops cut into phrases - lot of cuts. I started getting audio dropouts, so I increased the latency. Didn't solve the problem.
 
So I "Saved As" and deleted a bunch of tracks. Solved the problem for a couple minutes.
 
Then when the Audio Dropout warning box appeared for the umpteenth time, I noticed it had a "Help" button. Doh. I clicked it, and it suggested changing buffer settings and if that didn't work, to try the next thing. Well  buffer settings weren't the answer, but then it mentioned audio fragmentation. My project was about as fragmented as could be without having a monkey hitting Split endlessly while moving the mouse around. Mr. Help (or maybe Ms. Help) said to save as a bundle file and re-open. I did. End of audio dropouts.
 
Now, how many times did I see that help button on the Audio Dropout box? I'd tell you, but I've embarrassed myself sufficiently already. You can lead a horse to water...
 
 




 
 How did you fix this? Is this something that can be done with Sonar utility I don't know about? 
2014/12/30 14:15:15
Anderton
kitekrazy1
Anderton
Mr. Help (or maybe Ms. Help) said to save as a bundle file and re-open. I did. End of audio dropouts.

 
How did you fix this? Is this something that can be done with Sonar utility I don't know about? 



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