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2014/12/30 10:42:35
yorolpal
Like many, I expect, when I track I have my sample buffers set as low as my card will run stably...currently 96.  But when I'm ready to mix with eleventy jillion plugs and such I bump them up as far as I can...currently 1024.  But, since those settings remain static throughout projects unless I remember to change them, I'm always loading a project up only to find...due to either sluggish recording performance or, conversely, pops and crackles...that I'm in the wrong mode. 
 
So...
 
Is there a way currently to have Sonar remember the audio settings for each project and change the audio card as needed on startup??
 
If not, please feel free to move this to features and such as you did to my last post. 
 
Thanks.
 
2014/12/30 11:46:35
Anderton
yorolpal
Is there a way currently to have Sonar remember the audio settings for each project and change the audio card as needed on startup??



No. You can't adjust the audio card parameters within SONAR, so you can't save them within SONAR. As to whether SONAR can go tell another manufacturer's application what to do, I'm not too sure of how code works...I assume it would be possible, but that any "hooks" would be unique for each company's control panel, and they would need to be updated every time there was a new sound card or change to a company's ASIO control panel.
 
Probably the closest you could come would be to have interface manufacturers include a toggle button on their control panels to choose between your two "favorites," and create a macro in SONAR to call it up.
2014/12/30 12:00:50
bapu
I think the Bakers merely need to think "how would the smartest person do this" and do that.
 
I'd love to have a project based buffer setting in SONAR. 
 
They should start with an industry standard interface like, say... oh I dunno..... RME!!!
(disclaimer, I use an RME)
2014/12/30 12:13:21
CJaysMusic
Sonar does not control your driver settings,  ASIO buffers or WDM settings. 
 
CJ
2014/12/30 12:18:45
gswitz
And in this vein, how about default new project buffer settings? Settings saved in templates so you could have a hardware monitoring template and a software monitoring template.
2014/12/30 12:18:46
John
It does on my system. I do control the buffers within Sonar using WDM drivers for my hardware. Maybe I don't know just what is being said here. 
 
From the Sonar X3 manual page 1294
 
All of your audio settings are listed in the Preferences dialog box, which you open with the Edit >
Preferences command. The following list summarizes all the settings that the Wave Profiler sets.
You can override all of them except what audio drivers are listed in the Drivers tab:
• Input and output drivers
• DMA buffer sizes (in samples)
• Mixing latency

 
 
2014/12/30 12:22:08
bapu
CJaysMusic
Sonar does not control your driver settings,  ASIO buffers or WDM settings. 
 
CJ


True for ASIO, but isn't it about time audio interface manufacturers have an API to drive their hardware settings (at least buffers and sample rate)?
 
  
2014/12/30 13:15:08
Anderton
John
It does on my system. I do control the buffers within Sonar using WDM drivers for my hardware. Maybe I don't know just what is being said here. 
 



WDM is different. It's a single, standardized protocol in Windows, into which SONAR already integrates. Unfortunately while its performance is a major improvement compared to MME, I've never been able to get the same level of performance as I can with well-written ASIO drivers.
 
I still don't quite understand why a software company with a gigantic market share for its operating system can't figure out how to improve on a protocol developed years ago by a German software company...I think one reason why the Mac's Core Audio was so readily adopted was because its performance equaled or exceeded ASIO on the Mac. 
2014/12/30 14:15:53
gswitz
Over the last few days I've been using my standard issue Lenovo Think Pad booted to a Linux Ubuntu Studio USB drive.
 
It boots to low latency and works flawlessly. It doesn't falter. While I can use my RME UCX with it, this time I just used the built-in laptop Mic. I played different parts and recorded using Ardour. 
 
I don't do much with it, but it's refreshing to skip mics and pre-amps and all that stuff and just record practice tracks and play along with them. Setup and breakdown couldn't be easier.
 
I'm not saying it's Sonar. But I completely love it and it works great.
2014/12/30 15:39:59
John
CJaysMusic
Sonar does not control your driver settings,  ASIO buffers or WDM settings. 
 
CJ


Anderton
John
It does on my system. I do control the buffers within Sonar using WDM drivers for my hardware. Maybe I don't know just what is being said here. 
 



WDM is different. It's a single, standardized protocol in Windows, into which SONAR already integrates. Unfortunately while its performance is a major improvement compared to MME, I've never been able to get the same level of performance as I can with well-written ASIO drivers.
 
I still don't quite understand why a software company with a gigantic market share for its operating system can't figure out how to improve on a protocol developed years ago by a German software company...I think one reason why the Mac's Core Audio was so readily adopted was because its performance equaled or exceeded ASIO on the Mac. 


The post above yours here is the reason I posted. It was stated in it that Sonar did not control WDM drivers. I know that to be untrue. 


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