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2014/12/26 19:11:37
mcdonalk
Is anyone running Sonar X3 on an Intel NUC (e.g. D54250wykh)? If so, how well does it perform?
 
thanks
 
Keith
2014/12/26 23:38:16
hockeyjx
You get an i5 NUC with 16GB of RAM, and I bet it would be pretty slick. There is room for two mSATA drives, so that would be covered. I've configured a bunch of them and they were snappy.
2014/12/27 00:29:52
Scoot
Funny now that a desktop PC is small enough to sit on top of most external soundcards.
 
I wonder if a soundcard manufacturer will follow suit and use the same footprint.
 
That could look tidy
2014/12/27 01:02:59
robert_e_bone
I haven't seen anyone post anything in the forums about that particular PC.  My first reaction to it is that while it may be just fine for running Sonar, it looks like some design exercise with compromised limitations that I would myself take a pass on.
 
It has an i5 CPU, but it is only running normally at 1.3 Ghz.  A look at other available i5 CPU's (not available for this model - just referenced for speed comparison), shows that other i5 processors run at 3.0 - 3.7 Ghz, and have quad cores, rather than two cores - on the CPU that is in the PC you are asking about.
 
The 4250 i5 CPU in this PC rates 2136 on a performance benchmark scale, while a middle of the i5 road 4590 CPU comes in at 3247 on the same benchmark tests.  Point being here is that this CPU is weak on performance.
 
In addition, while this supports up to 16 GB of memory, there a giant bunches of mATX motherboards out there that support 32 GB and some that go up to 64 GB.  For right now, 16 GB is plenty of memory for Sonar, but if you will be using this machine for 3-5 years, wouldn't you want the option to put in more memory than 16 GB?  5 years is a long time to be locked in on something that is mediocre at best from the onset.
 
Also, the memory is running at a different voltage than what is pretty standard (1.5 volts) - this memory runs at 1.35 volts.  I just did a price look up for memory running at 1.35 v as well as 1.5 and for 16 GB of memory you will pay about $50 more for the 1.35 v memory than what you would pay for the 1.5 v memory.  ($199 for 16 GB of 1.35 v versus $149 for 16 GB of 1.5 v)
 
I myself would take a pass on this kind of PC.  It's design is goofy and compromised in too many ways for running something like Sonar except for its smaller size (which in my opinion works against it).
 
The graphics capabilities as implemented are weak, for instance you are limited in resolution choices if you want to use 2 display monitors, AND this model PC reportedly runs quite hot when running multiple monitor configurations (2 displays).
 
For too many reasons, in my opinion, this PC comes up way short for being a good choice.
 
I hope that gives you some reasonable guidance, 
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/12/27 11:19:37
hockeyjx
I'm sure the bakers can get Intel to send them one, and then they can send it to me for testing 
2014/12/27 11:52:43
johnkeel
I would rather go for the Gigabyte BRIX, you can get some high specs out of them:
http://www.gigabyte.pt/pr...form/mini_pc_barebone/
2014/12/27 12:01:44
hockeyjx
Can't get behind a computer product that sounds like BRICK! :P
2014/12/27 14:39:44
Paul P
johnkeel
I would rather go for the Gigabyte BRIX, you can get some high specs out of them:
http://www.gigabyte.pt/pr...form/mini_pc_barebone/



The Gigabytes and the Intels look to be identical.
 
Here are the Intel variations.
 
2014/12/27 15:54:32
mcdonalk
Bob Bone & others:
 
Isn't a NUC roughly equivalent in processing power & peripherals to a laptop? Is anyone running Sonar successfully on a laptop?
 
As an aside, Intel is expected to unveil Broadwell-based NUC's at CES in January.
 
Keith
2014/12/27 20:05:39
robert_e_bone
The multi-displays, is that using one actual HDMI and the other a display port?  Don't those only mirror the image from the other HDMI port - so while it is two displays, it is actually 2 of the same image?
 
Maybe I am getting the concept of what a display port does wrong - I don't use them these days, but back in the days of video presentations at conferences and such, I thought that was how the display ports worked.
 
IF my recollection on the above is correct, that would be pretty useless for Sonar, where I would want 2 distinct display images.
 
AND, on the Brick one - are there only USB 3 ports?  That may be an issue with some USB-driven devices, such as some midi controllers and lots of audio interfaces that still insist on using USB 2 ports.
 
Bob Bone
 
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