• SONAR
  • (Solution Pending) Sonar and Laptop...still pops/clicks (p.3)
2014/12/02 01:51:56
microapp
johnnyV
Shutting off start up service will do very little other than make your computer boot faster. 

True for some services but not all.
johnnyV
If the pops are only being heard, and not recorded, don't worry about it. It's a laptop. Laptops are for mobile recording and not a first choice for a DAW platform. 

Very true.
2014/12/02 06:27:46
TremoJem
I have and do run LatencyMon and leave it running and there are no spikes...it does not even react in the slightest to these pops when they occur.
 
I am interested in how to properly manage the battery (mentioned earlier) so please post those instructions. I think I read something about disabling the battery and that really confuses me, but I am willing to keep working on this.
 
I will check out the website mentioned earlier, as they may also list instructions on steps I can take to disable the services you mentioned earlier from services.msc.
 
Thanks everyone.
2014/12/02 07:01:48
TremoJem
I cruised BlackViper and have a plan.
 
I also googled legacy firewire driver and my suspicion was correct...device manager, so I will move forward with that, and later I will google battery management.
 
I will keep you posted.
2014/12/02 07:46:04
gtgarner
Waiting for your solution because I'm experiencing the same exact thing. 
 
When I first start a project everything is fine. No pops or clicks or anything. As my project advances I hear more pops and clicks.  I'm using a MOTU firewire interface.  This has just started for some reason.  I've used Sonar since version 1 on disks. (Cakewalk). 
 
I have eliminated many of my pops and clicks by lowering my buffer size. I got this tip from another thread. 
 
Whenever I introduce any of my Antares plugins the pops and clicks start and "REMAIN" even if I delete the plugin. Sonar must be keeping residual pieces of plugins even when you remove them.
2014/12/02 09:54:56
TremoJem
As far as battery management...that is in the power management section of the control panel and I am not sure what it is you want me to do differently.
 
I have the system optimized for maximum performance.
 
If possible I will try to "disable" the battery.
 
With regards to running on "battery only" because of poor 120V main...I run all power thru a conditioner, filter and then a UPS/Battery Backup.
 
I do this for all PCs, Interfaces, rack and outboard gear like my Strymon pedals etc. And everything is isolated from one another.
2014/12/02 10:40:30
Kylotan
Usually, what is needed regarding the battery stuff is to make sure that in the advanced power settings, under Processor Power Management, the minimum and maximum processor rates are both 100%. If you have a choice of Active vs Passive cooling, choose Active (but be careful to make sure your system doesn't overheat). But judging by your first post, you have done all of this already.
 
You say "My CPU is running no higher than 47%" but what measurement did you use to take that? That sounds a lot like like one of your two CPU cores is being maxed out (ie. 50%); which implies you're hitting a hard limit that only a new CPU will address.
 
(PS. Cakewalk - fix your dumb forum so that it doesn't censor dictionary words based on substrings within them. I should be able to type "s u s p i c i o u s l y" without censorship.)
2014/12/02 12:03:27
TremoJem
I used task manager and it appeared that both cores were running side by side almost the same. Of course, they weren't exactly the same, but close.
 
Yes, my processor is at "100%" for min/max.
 
I think, but will check, I am on active cooling.
 
2014/12/02 16:33:33
TremoJem
Hey, I am open to any idea.
 
I forget how to get to services.msc.
 
Please direct me and I will try all three if possible, and I will check DMA mode for the HDD.
 
And how do I navigate to the firewire settings to try legacy mode?
 
Thanks a bunch.
2014/12/02 18:56:53
microapp
You should be able to look at the firewire driver in device manager.
 
Here is a link that shows how.
http://support.presonus.c...should-I-switch-to-it-
Normally the FW driver is part of windows but since you have an smartcard FW not sure you have the legacy but look anyway ...you prob do. This is very important for most firewire interfaces with Win7 and later.
 
Here is how to get to services.msc (you can also from the start menu just run services.msc)
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2495-services-start-disable.html
 
Here is how to check the HDD DMA settings
http://windows.microsoft....ldogcb=0#1TC=windows-7
 
2014/12/02 19:39:05
johnnyV
Battery management is in Device manager, look for battery at the top of the list, It is just a background app that shows in the tray how much battery is left. I have no clue why this seems to cause such a huge DPCL spike when not on battery, but is has for me on 3 different laptops. 
You don't need it unless your running on battery. 
And someone mentioned above about running on battery, don't. With my laptops all hell breaks loose if you try to run a USB Audio interface or even a Projector. Keep it plugged in. Because a laptop uses a power supply system it is not subject to minor power variations. 
If you hear clicks and pops due to RF interference that's another possibility but I doubt if that's whats going on. 
 
But at this point if Latency Mon is telling you there are no DPCLAT issues you should stop looking for them and move to looking elsewhere. That is why I recommended running it. Did you run it with Sonar open and playing a project? Sounds like you did. 
 
So now look for issues with your drivers and buffer sizes, faulty plug ins, hard drives etc. 
Some folks have gone nuts for weeks looking for these sort of things only to find it was a bad cable. I just thought my power amp had finally started to die due to crackles in one speaker.
It was just a cable. Then you ask, how the heck can a cable just go bad when it is never moved, unplugged or touched??  
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