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2014/11/13 15:50:09
sharke
jatoth
I've never truly gotten why so many people trust/use "cloud" storage.
External drives are dirt cheap. $70-80 per TB. Why rent "cloud" space?
Has anyone tried to upload a couple hundred gigs to the cloud? Not what I want to spend my time doing. Also, the reality is "cloud" storage is nothing more than saving your stuff on someone else's computer. Maybe it's my age or the fact that I have spent the last 34 years in IT, but I don't want anyone else responsible for my data.
 


I think most people use cloud storage as an extra layer of protection. NO form of backup is 100% certain - your external drive could perish in a flood or fire along with your main drive. The same can be said about cloud storage. Having both on the go certainly pushes the envelope closer to 100%.
2014/11/13 16:34:55
Beepster
Hi, John. Thank you. I've had my hands and mind directed at other purposes as of late and not on the program as much so I've abstained from my usual ramblings. I still give the forums a quick scan every day or so to make sure I'm not missing anything important (thankfully by doing so I did not miss out on the survey and the resulting bonus bucks which were spent on Karl's epic SWA video tuts and this thread which was relevant to my plans). Looks like the re-structuring and deputizing of users to see to light modminerating tasks has really streamlined the place. Very nice. Hope you've been well and I'll be back as a regular soon enough if all goes well.
 
But back on topic... from the tone of Gobbler's reply/update helpfully posted by biodiode (thank you) they must have received a significant and well deserved flood of the brown icky in regards to their silliness. Not sure what would have made them think that any of what they proposed was a good idea but it sounds like they have been cured of whatever poor judgment came over them. I hope Cakewalk got in a few well placed jabs in that melee as well and that our friends at Gobbler will learn and grow from this. Online storage is easy to find. GOOD online storage... not so much. Perhaps this experience will allow them to outthink and outperform the competition and in a few years we'll all be singing their praises and wondering whatever did we do without the Gobbler.
 
Peace out, ya'll.
2014/11/13 16:59:55
soens
It's amazing how many people have everything including their heads in a "cloud". Better download it before you "loose" it.

As I learned in grade school... and from simple observation... clouds form and disappear all the time. They are dynamic not static, so I think using the term "cloud" is both appropriate and a warning. You can be floating on cloud 9 one second and falling to the ground the next. Which begs the question: "Why would you put anything in a cloud that you don't already have backed up somewhere close by?"
 
I, for one, don't trust clouds for anything. They form today and dissipate tomorrow. A few in the sky look pretty. Too many turns the sky dark, dreary and menacing. The whole concept to me flies in the face of reason. You'd be far better off to use a safety deposit box.
 
Maybe the "sky" really is falling.
2014/11/13 17:26:00
Stone House Studios
Beepster
 
... from the tone of Gobbler's reply/update helpfully posted by biodiode (thank you) they must have received a significant and well deserved flood of the brown icky in regards to their silliness. Not sure what would have made them think that any of what they proposed was a good idea but it sounds like they have been cured of whatever poor judgment came over them. I hope Cakewalk got in a few well placed jabs in that melee as well and that our friends at Gobbler will learn and grow from this. Online storage is easy to find. GOOD online storage... not so much. Perhaps this experience will allow them to outthink and outperform the competition and in a few years we'll all be singing their praises and wondering whatever did we do without the Gobbler.
 



and I'm sure nobody will be nervously watching to see what happens . . . . . . without downloading all of their stuff!
 
Brian
2014/11/13 17:28:13
Anderton
soens
As I learned in grade school... and from simple observation... clouds form and disappear all the time. They are dynamic not static, so I think using the term "cloud" is both appropriate and a warning. You can be floating on cloud 9 one second and falling to the ground the next. Which begs the question: "Why would you put anything in a cloud that you don't already have backed up somewhere close by?"
 
I, for one, don't trust clouds for anything. They form today and dissipate tomorrow. A few in the sky look pretty. Too many turn the sky dark, dreary and menacing.



Completely OT, but aside from the fact that I agree with your sentiment, that's some pretty good writing. 
2014/11/13 18:30:54
Beepster
Stone House Studios
Beepster
 
... from the tone of Gobbler's reply/update helpfully posted by biodiode (thank you) they must have received a significant and well deserved flood of the brown icky in regards to their silliness. Not sure what would have made them think that any of what they proposed was a good idea but it sounds like they have been cured of whatever poor judgment came over them. I hope Cakewalk got in a few well placed jabs in that melee as well and that our friends at Gobbler will learn and grow from this. Online storage is easy to find. GOOD online storage... not so much. Perhaps this experience will allow them to outthink and outperform the competition and in a few years we'll all be singing their praises and wondering whatever did we do without the Gobbler.
 



and I'm sure nobody will be nervously watching to see what happens . . . . . . without downloading all of their stuff!
 
Brian




Yeah, that's a pretty irritating inconvenience and a blow to trust that will be difficult to recover from... at least in the short term. This is kind of like if Memorex or the like all of a sudden said "Oh... BTW, we designed our DVDs to self destruct in 3... 2..." then at the last minute turned around and said "PSYCHE!"
 
Very strange indeed. As said many times in the thread so far though cloud storage should not be used as ones sole backup method despite the cloud companies insinuations otherwise. 
2014/11/13 18:50:08
azslow3
I recently had to transfer ~40TB fast (locally) to new hardware/software architecture. I could not get more then 120MB/Sec, so that was not fun at all. I am too drunk to calculate how many months it could take with a cloud service...
2014/11/13 19:20:24
Beepster
azslow3
I recently had to transfer ~40TB fast (locally) to new hardware/software architecture. I could not get more then 120MB/Sec, so that was not fun at all. I am too drunk to calculate how many months it could take with a cloud service...




It just so happens I was on the phone with my ISP earlier today over some other inane silliness and out of laziness/forgetfulness asked to be reminded what my down/up speeds were. I don't pay for their topline package but it is still one of their faster/better ones. 20Mb down, 10Mb up per second. Those are small "b"s... as in bits... not bytes. So yeah, I'd say just a tad slower than 120MB (big B) per second... lulzity.
 
Definitely one of the better reasons I'm not too enthusiastic about tossing my crud up into the cloud en masse let alone paying for the privilege.
2014/11/13 19:40:47
soens
Anderton
Completely OT, .... 



Aren't I usually?!
2014/11/13 20:03:08
SteveStrummerUK
 
 
I don't fully understand the need to pay (so much) for online storage.
 
For example, you can get a completely free A-Drive account which has 50GB of storage, and allows file transfer of files up to 2GB.
 
Obviously it's a sprat to catch a mackerel because they want to tempt you into subscribing to one of their 'better' plans and hence it's not as fully featured and a bit 'clunky'. But it's free, and it works.
 
 
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