azslow3
Run Sonar as administrator and then rescan.
 

Thank you for the advice, but that didn't work.

pedwards2932
I had made a folder in the C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\VstPlugins called SampleTank then put the SampleTank2.x.dll in that folder.  When I started Sonar as admin it saw the .dll and then SampleTank was available.  Incidentally I had to set up Sonar to always start as admin because I couldn't get SampleTank to load unless I opened as admin.......hope this helps because your issues looks like it is exactly like what I was going thru.

Wierd. This way I can get Sonar to see the plugin, and it loads only if run as admin. Looking for a way to solve this. For now this workaround is fine.

scook
I don't think you will ever succeed in running a 32bit DirectX plug-in a Cakewalk DAW without a DX-to-VST wrapper and then the plug-in will show up in the VST2 list. WRT the actual VST plug-in not appearing in the list, did you try running a VST reset. Here is how http://www.cakewalk.com/S...ed-for-Upgraders 
 
And yes, as the other have said, run SONAR as administrator.

Thank you for reply.
I'm not trying to run 32-bit DXi. That was the only option before pedwards2932 suggested his workaround.

Joe Connor [Cakewalk]
As the others have noted, running as administrator and then re-scanning plug-ins usually does the trick. If not, a VST reset and rescan can help:
 
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Thank you for your reply, Joe!
Yes, I had done all that prior to starting a new thread. Why does Sonar require admin rights in order to run IK 32-bit plugins? That doesn't happen to other 32-bit plugins and instruments.

Not to hijack this thread but I have Workstation XL which has all the IK Multimedia sound libraries.....if I want to run them just from the SampleTank interface then do I just create a folder in C:\Program Files (x86)\IK Multimedia\SampleTank 2.5\Instruments and name the folder for whichever library like "Miroslav Philharmonik" then drop the library in there?

Soundwise
Yes, I had done all that prior to starting a new thread. Why does Sonar require admin rights in order to run IK 32-bit plugins? That doesn't happen to other 32-bit plugins and instruments.

The problem is in IK, not Sonar.
 
Technically, Sonar (and other hosts) just try to load all DLLs it finds in configured folders and ask them either they are VSTs, with which names and properties. 32bit DLLs can not be loaded into 64bit program directly, so that is done throw some helper (Sonar has "BitBridge", external one with name JBridge is known to work better with MP, you can try that way).
 
If a DLLs does not report as expected, Sonar assumes that is something else. So Sonar has some options as "rescan failed" and "rescan existing". The simplest way is (as already suggested) rescan everything.
 
Without Admin rights, MP refuse to answer Sonar correctly. Who knows why...
 
There are also some rumor how to make it work if it does not, including manually copy Philharmonik.dll to other folder or create Philharmonik.ini with some special settings (see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2646391)
 
But since SampleTank 3 was introduces, many users simply use SE version to avoid that (and other) problems.

azslow3
The problem is in IK, not Sonar.

I'm not blaming any particular developer just looking for a solution.
Reaper x64 runs MP without a problem, though...
 

azslow3There are also some rumor how to make it work if it does not, including manually copy Philharmonik.dll to other folder or create Philharmonik.ini with some special settings (see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2646391)

That's what I've done. Wasn't expecting it to be a common problem. Thanks for the link.
 

azslow3 But since SampleTank 3 was introduces, many users simply use SE version to avoid that (and other) problems.

Yes, I got ST3SE bundled with MP, so I'll just use Miroslav libraries with it.
Thanks!

I used to go through an install process with IK VSTs that addressed this.  First, I would change my regular user account to an admin account (for the duration of the process only).  Next, I would install and register the product using the elevated user account.  I would run Sonar and execute the VST while elevated.  Then I would set the user account back to a regular user.
 
There is some registry entry or file that is in an admin restricted directory that only needs to be written to on initialization.  After things are installed and running it only needs to read this so things are OK.

Sometime last year, someone posted a registry hack changing permissions on an element.  I haven't had to play with this since the registry change (which sadly, I can't remember off the top of my head).
 
Glen

If at all possible, I would heartily recommend upgrading to SampleTank 3. Not only does this sort of problem go away, but ST3 includes some of the sounds in Miroslav with awesome articulation keyswitching built in. And you can upgrade straight from Miroslav without buying ST2. Upgrade at AudioDeluxe for a nice discount. Oh, and if you do get ST3, use the VST2 version rather than the VST3 version - the latter has some UI sluggishness.

yevster
If at all possible, I would heartily recommend upgrading to SampleTank 3. Not only does this sort of problem go away, but ST3 includes some of the sounds in Miroslav with awesome articulation keyswitching built in. And you can upgrade straight from Miroslav without buying ST2. Upgrade at AudioDeluxe for a nice discount. Oh, and if you do get ST3, use the VST2 version rather than the VST3 version - the latter has some UI sluggishness.

At Last a sensible answer!!

 I never had a any luck with 32 bit in my 64 bit system. I agree with getting ST3 as a solution. If you get it by Sunday you can get 5 free SampleTank Custom shop products for free in the current(til Sunday) group buy.

hi guys, I recently upgraded to windows 10 and suddently I had this problem too, and I FIXED RUNNING SONAR AS ADMINISTRATOR.

here is how I solved this:

right click on sonar icon
click on properties
click on advanced
check the box "run as administrator"
ok, aply, etc

and... PROBLEM SOLVED. it solved as well another issues I had with another 32b plugin: Speakerphone from Audioease.

just one thing: you MUST open sonar by doble clicking the icon from the desktop (or wherever you have its shorcut) and once opened, you must open your project using sonar's menu. DON'T OPEN SONAR BY DOUBLE CLICKING ON YOUR PROJECT'S ICON, since it will open sonar not as administrator and it simply won't work. do this at least the times you are going to use Philarmonik.

hope it helps.

(if it doesn't work the first time), open plugin manager, under VST options check the 2 Re-scan boxes and do a scan of your VSTs. after this, it will work, an you may get back to plugin manager and uncheck the 2 Re-scan boxes again.

my equipment:
intel cuad processor Q95590
windows 10 pro
sonar platinum 64b