• SONAR
  • does anyone know if sonar will eventually support hypercontrol (p.2)
2014/12/01 14:56:33
microapp
Thanks Craig.
I know how to set up ACT. I have mapped AXIOM-61 to Z3TA+2 for live performance.
However since I have another surface (FW-1884) for general Sonar, I was primarily interested in how you mapped the AXIOM for general Sonar use. I am not at my studio PC right now but I do not remember any stock ACT profiles for X3P AXIOM. Would these be in the control surface selections ?
 
 
2014/12/01 15:17:25
bapu
Michelle911
Anderton
Hypercontrol info .

 
thanks, I thought about posting that link myself in case anyone wasn't sure what I was talking about.
 

You won't be able to post links until you have a sufficient number of posts to be allowed. IIRC it's either 26 or 51.
 
Go to the Songs Forum listen to songs and comment. Get that post count up.
2014/12/01 15:21:34
scook
Links are enabled after an account ages 3 days and has 5 posts
2014/12/01 16:42:49
Anderton
microapp
Thanks Craig.
I know how to set up ACT. I have mapped AXIOM-61 to Z3TA+2 for live performance.
However since I have another surface (FW-1884) for general Sonar, I was primarily interested in how you mapped the AXIOM for general Sonar use. I am not at my studio PC right now but I do not remember any stock ACT profiles for X3P AXIOM. Would these be in the control surface selections ?

 
Wow, that was a long time ago...IIRC what I did was choose an ACT MIDI template with faders and rotaries (probably the Peavey PC-1600, I was always a huge fan of it), delved into the Axiom documentation about how to map the controls, then mapped them so SONAR thought it was a PC-1600. I also recall doing some mapping for Reason at the time.
 
2014/12/01 17:16:01
microapp
Anderton
Wow, that was a long time ago...

Craig,
No...a long time ago is when I used to subscribe to Electronotes (remember Bernie Hutchins?) and build/modify the stuff I found there (1978?).
I think I still have some articles you wrote for that mag. I still have a Terry Mikulic oscillator somewhere (maybe in the attic).
Now that's a long time.
2014/12/01 18:19:28
John
lawp
in response to the subject/question, my speculation is "no" as even MCU has been abandoned/made open source, which makes me think proprietary controller support is not a high priority


I'm not sure what you mean. MC support has not been abandon. Nor is there anything proprietary about it. It is the one everyone uses for compatibility. If a CS is not supported by a DAW it will have an MC mode.  
 
The Mackie Control is at present the standard by which all others try to emulate. If you are talking about CW not updating MC support That is a totally different issue. It has nothing to do with the MC protocol.  
2014/12/01 18:31:54
Anderton
John, I think his point isn't that the MCU isn't supported in SONAR, but that it won't be developed further. Frankly, open source is the way to go - there are a lot of potential variations in the MCU protocol, and I think it's more likely some user is going to come up with a really useful twist on it than a developer at Cakewalk who is working on new features and bug fixes.
 
At this point, the MCU standard is pretty mature - the Mackie Control appeared in 2003 if memory serves. If you want to do transport, solo/mute, arm record, and move faders and panpots on your main channels as well as switch banks, it works pretty reliably. Hard to say whether Hypercontrol will be equally universal in 2025. 
 
2014/12/01 19:12:57
John
Anderton
John, I think his point isn't that the MCU isn't supported in SONAR, but that it won't be developed further. Frankly, open source is the way to go - there are a lot of potential variations in the MCU protocol, and I think it's more likely some user is going to come up with a really useful twist on it than a developer at Cakewalk who is working on new features and bug fixes.
 
At this point, the MCU standard is pretty mature - the Mackie Control appeared in 2003 if memory serves. If you want to do transport, solo/mute, arm record, and move faders and panpots on your main channels as well as switch banks, it works pretty reliably. Hard to say whether Hypercontrol will be equally universal in 2025. 
 


Actually its a very complete protocol. It came that way from the Logic Control. Each DAW developer is free to implement its features as they choose. In other DAWs it will do all sorts of things not available in Sonar. Its not the MC that is lacking its real support from CW.  Also its still being sold. 
 
To my knowledge its had one rom update. That was many years ago.  The MCU Pro adds USB.  They all have identical MC abilities.  
2014/12/01 20:27:06
Splat
Has been said before, HyperControl is proprietary to MAudio. So no chance.
2014/12/01 20:35:58
kitekrazy1
 My favorite function on a DAW is midi learn. I have controllers that come with their own templates but I like to do my own assigning. I can't always remember what does what on a pad controller.
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