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2014/12/08 00:56:44
AdamGrossmanLG
Hello All,
 
I was wondering if Sonar X3 would allow me to use a closed hihat from one synth and an open in another and somehow allow me to choke them together.
 
Does this functionality somehow live within Sonar?  If not, any work around would be greatly appreciated!
 
-Adam
2014/12/08 01:47:16
John
Choke meaning cut off. If the synths support it I don't see why not. You may need to use automation for this to work. It would be something Sonar itself wouldn't do. But one could use a gate on the audio. It would simple to do this in one synth if its a drum synth. 
2014/12/08 01:49:03
AdamGrossmanLG
Hey John,
 
Yea, its a closed HH from one synth and an open HH from another.  
 
I could just make the open HH last for as long as I hold the note and just hold them till the next HH.   Not sure how I would gate that?
 
Thanks,
Adam
2014/12/08 02:10:57
FidelityMusic
You'd use a gate with sidechain to sidechain the closed hat to the open hat. This will allow you to choke the open hat.
2014/12/08 02:37:04
stickman393
Um... you could sample the two sounds and write a quick SFZ file for hi-hats. That allows you to set up a series of samples with choke ability.
 
Of course, you'd need to add an instance of SFZ Player to your project. And learn about the SFZ file format.
 
I realize this is like, "now I have two problems".
2014/12/08 03:12:23
Boydie
Why don't you put a "ghost" closed hi-hat after the open hi hat (in the same synth) at the same time the closed hi hat plays in the other synth

Depending on the synth you may even be able to make the velocity of of the "ghost" hi hat ZERO so it doesn't sound at all - it just serves to "choke" the open hi hat at the right time

Much easier than side chaining gates etc.
2014/12/08 05:35:26
Bristol_Jonesey
OR use something like BFD which provides it's own choke articulations
2014/12/08 06:44:12
twaddle
I'm baffled and intrigued as to what/why the op is trying to do and what effect is he trying to create using what drums?
 
I'm guessing you just want a normal open hat being closed by the closed hat?
 
As Jonesy pointed out BFD does this naturally and also has a very flexible choking system but surely all drum vst's will have the basic function where an open hat is closed when you hit the closed hat?
 
Why are you using to different instruments? I'm guessing perhaps these are electronic drums sounds and not acoustic ones since you say you can hold a note down to make the open hh longer?
I don't think you can do that in any acoustic type drum plug in.
 
 
Steve
2014/12/08 07:24:35
mudgel
Can't this be done in SD3?
2014/12/08 07:42:51
mettelus
I am intrigued by this as well, since within the same synth this is simple. I just tried Boydie's method and it works well (I set the velocities of the choke to 1 in the same synth), and duplicated the closed HH hits on another track.
 
Clicking on the closed HH row (left edge) in the PRV will select all hits, so can use the smart tool to drag the velocities to 1 on the original synth (one to be choked). This actually gives a perfect choke without using another synth (I used AD for the main synth).
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