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2014/12/06 12:59:23
John
mike_mccue
I wish SONAR had VCA style fader control.


It does. if you group the faders they will be relative to one another.  
2014/12/06 13:10:49
kennywtelejazz
Well , if it has wheels , mammary glands , chrome, flashy paint , or strings , you might be OK if your real lucky …
If it happens to look like a professional recording studio in a small box that you can fit in a suitcase and comes with those adorable shiny little vst things that you can make wonderful musical sounds with …
chances are it may give you problems at some point  
 
Kenny
2014/12/06 13:55:14
declan
Ah, nice Saturday morning thread.  Reminds me of the late '90s.
 
 
2014/12/06 14:09:54
Anderton
joel77
I've had and continue to have my issues when using Sonar (and every other program I own). But I would also add that about 99% of the time, the problem is NOT the software. The problem most always turns out to be ME! Sometimes it's my hardware, but mostly it's my misunderstanding, my lack of knowledge or just plain brain farts!
 
Just sayin'

 
Amen. At the risk of embarrassing myself, last night I was working on some bass loops. I would select them and drag them to a desktop folder to save them. No problem, right? Then I would bring them back into SONAR...but they would be longer. Not by much, but enough to be an issue.
 
So I thought maybe a glitch. I repeated the drag to the desktop, and when brought back into SONAR everything was fine. Okay, stuff happens.
 
But later on it happened again. I could not figure out what was causing the issue. It was taking hours of my time because I kept having to re-do loops when they mysteriously became longer. And then sometimes they'd be the right length.
 
Of course, I did what any sane person would do - come into the forum and post a thread called "SERIOUS SONAR BUG!! CHANGES CLIP LENGTH RANDOMLY!!!  In the post, I said I'm an expert with years of experience and don't have this problem with Reaper, so therefore SONAR sucks.
 
Well okay, I didn't actually do that. Instead I eventually figured out that when I was selecting the clips, if I started from the end and went back to the beginning, I'd often catch a bit of the track after the clip, and SONAR thought I meant to select it and therefore, it was what I wanted to drag. So it filled in that empty space with silence and extended the clip length.
 
In retrospect, that makes perfect sense....
2014/12/06 14:19:24
BobF
I used the new comping tool for the first time this morning.  It is F-ing awesome!!
2014/12/06 14:20:37
kitekrazy1
CakeAlexS
kitekrazy1
I hate Sonar, it's complicated, you have to know all kinds of stuff about your windows box to get it to work reasonably well.
 
 
 It's like that with all DAW, Video and Gaming software.  It's no different for Mac users.  A more proprietary environment is more stable buy less free.



This might seem controversial as everybody thinks Macs are just perfect but I've had more crashes with Pro Tools than Sonar, and yes same old chestnut was at fault... plugins... drivers... etc etc. So not Pro Tools fault.
 
Bottomline is all software is buggy, and both PC and Mac run on Intel. Mac's are PC's.




 Apple updates their OS more frequently and in other forums there's always someone waiting for the guinea pig to see if everything still works.  Many of the cross platform software updates on my licenses have been for the Mac side.
 
2014/12/06 14:34:48
kitekrazy1
 I'm a long standing member of "If it aint broke still f*** with it.  A few weeks ago I decided to mess with and install AMD's newest version of Overdrive.  I had to rebuild my OS from start.  It was actually more of a blessing. I have 50gb more of drive space because of less junk.  I installed my VSTs in their own special folders.  Small Windows crashes disappeared.   Sonar was always stable but now I have no plugins rejected.
2014/12/06 14:35:09
Anderton
The Yosemite upgrade comments are insane. Half give it five stars, half give it one star. So I asked two trusted Mac fanatics what to do. One said the one-star reviewers don't know what they're talking about it, it's great. The other said to wait at least until late January when some serious security holes are fixed. He strongly advised not updating from Mavericks.
 
Oh well.
2014/12/06 14:56:05
John
Anderton
The Yosemite upgrade comments are insane. Half give it five stars, half give it one star. So I asked two trusted Mac fanatics what to do. One said the one-star reviewers don't know what they're talking about it, it's great. The other said to wait at least until late January when some serious security holes are fixed. He strongly advised not updating from Mavericks.
 
Oh well.


Where have we heard that before? LOL 
2014/12/06 15:02:13
microapp
I have X3eP running on a 7 year old core2 Duo... and running quite well actually. The PC (self-built)  cost about  25% of what a MAC would have cost. Apple's support cycle is 3 years. You are lucky if the next OSX does not break your existing software. I am not bashing Apple (well maybe a little). If you want a mostly turn-key solution and have the $$, more power to you.
As far as Sonar goes, every complex piece of software is a work in progress. Nothing will ever run perfectly on all hardware all the time. As a developer, I am amazed at what Sonar achieves especially given the size of Cakewalk.
Look at the content of most of the issues on the forum the past several months. Most of the problems are user specific and related to unique hardware systems or plugins.
I have things I wish Sonar did differently. I have things I wish every piece of software I use did differently. But Sonar does allow me to do what I want it for...make music. Now I just need more time.
 
 
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