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2014/12/06 17:04:10
gswitz
mike_mccue
I wish SONAR had VCA style fader control.

 
Hey Mike!
 
I'm guessing there is something about VCA Fader Control...
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep08/articles/vcagroups.htm
that I don't understand. Using groups in Sonar, I can have things move relatively to each other, or inversely (one down the other up).
When you add two items to a group and then ctrl+click and move one you adjust relative distance between them. Then when you move them they maintain that relationship. You can set min and max values for movements.
 
All this is to say, could you explain what you want to be able to do that you can't?
 
Now, with fairness, the RME Total Mix takes relative fader movements to a whole new level where you can have N different sets of mixes and move all the faders together relatively (this is called trim mode). That is totally awesome when mixing 4 different headphones sends plus mains where the relative volumes stay sort of consistent. I'll agree that Sonar doesn't make anything like this easy. It would be a major change for Sonar to support this kind of mixing scenario. Sonar, to me, seems all about really mixing down to a single set of outputs at a time (like stereo pair or surround set). I have never tried mixing many different outputs at once (consider different headphone mixes for all the band members).
 
Respect.
2014/12/06 18:40:13
The Maillard Reaction
One thing that you can do with VCAs is change the level of a single, grouped, track without having to press ctrl, which is helpful when both hands are busy doing something like adjusting faders, or pictures of faders on a touch screen, and you aren't flexible enough to get your big toe up to your QWERTY controller.
 
2014/12/06 19:31:12
Anderton
mike_mccue
One thing that you can do with VCAs is change the level of a single, grouped, track without having to press ctrl, which is helpful when both hands are busy doing something like adjusting faders, or pictures of faders on a touch screen, and you aren't flexible enough to get your big toe up to your QWERTY controller.

 
POK answers that, and many other issues with a variety of programs. It's much cheaper than a console full of VCAs, adds no noise or distortion, and exhibits no control voltage feedthrough 
 
2014/12/06 20:43:34
gswitz
Nice toy, Craig. Maybe adding that to my wish list. Right now I have a pedal in my keyboard and pedal in my alphatrack but this is clearly better and wireless. Battery hog?
 
I take it you use one? I notice no expression pedal.
2014/12/06 21:01:04
gswitz
@TomH...
Sorry for being obnoxious this morning. Just hit me wrong.
 
I just happened to bump into a short list of artists using Sonar and as you asked today, I came back to share it...
 
http://www.xtempozone.com/wordpress/resources/sonar/
 
Musicians like Tom Hamilton from Aerosmith, Jimmy Buffet, B.B. King, three members of System of a Down, and John Anderson from Yes. Not to mention DJs and remixers such as Doug DeAngelis (Madonna, Nine Inch Nails, The Pet Shop Boys, et al), and Wu-Tan Clan. And producers including Bone Harris (Marylin Manson, Smashing Pumpkins, etc.), Jimmy Nichols (Reba McEntire, Elton John, etc.), and others.
2014/12/06 21:07:46
The Maillard Reaction
BB King uses SONAR???
 
That's awesome. I would have figured he was using an iPad with iSumthin. I think it's cool to learn he's a Windows guy like the rest of us.
2014/12/06 21:18:44
bapu
TomHelvey
because Sonar blows up for so many regularly. 




 
Excellent statistics, I'd say.
 
Maybe I'm a 1%'er?
2014/12/06 21:27:04
bapu
kitekrazy1
 Crashes are often not pilot error unless you open two separate apps that use the same driver or bad resource management in a project.  

Yet one more excellent statistic culled from where?
 
The pilot is the one who chooses those apps, BTW.
2014/12/06 21:30:05
John
One reason musicians use Sonar is its easy to get things done with it.  I know I like it for that reason too. 
2014/12/06 21:36:13
gswitz
Bapu, you are so def a 1%er. You should get the tat. But then, prob more than 1% already have that tat.
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