• SONAR
  • [Fixed in X3e] Playlist still broken (but NOT ANYMORE!!!) (p.4)
2014/01/09 09:45:01
JCody
I checked out the link Bob. Interesting stuff. However it looks like it doesn't play prerecorded tracks, and in our shows it's a necessity. Thanks for posting it though.
2014/01/09 10:12:34
robert_e_bone
Bummer - as I had said I used it for live stuff - oh well.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/01/09 15:27:15
Jekyll Vance
JCody, thanks, you're right... don't know why I thought this sound is not of Windows origin... That's some relief.
Again, I totally agree with you that playlist must be repaired, hitting "space" two times before each song is really irritating and I hope Cakewalk will fix it in their next update
 
You gave me very interesting information to think about this memory overload problem.
But I tend to consider such behaviour a bug. At first, what else on earth playlist could be useful for, but live performances? I think stability and keeping resources usage low must be the main priority in this case, not recording and saving changes. Second, if project gets automatically closed, what's the use of keeping it in the memory anyway?
Automation and synchronization is the main reason why I'm using playlist, otherwise I could as well use Winamp to play audio . If playlist doesn't work correctly with automation present, it's almost useless to my point of view.

P.S. Just spent some time experimenting with playlist in X3d, made of light-weight test projects containing VST automation. No memory overloads, it seems that projects unload from memory as they should even when I change something on the fly and save changes. This gives me some hope. Can someone else confirm this?


 
2014/01/09 23:57:25
JCody
That's interesting Jekyll. I'll give it a try. Maybe that's something they fixed in X3. But you said that you were 'saving on the fly'. What happens if you make a change but don't save it? Does it stay on in memory or does it close? If they've fixed that I'd be delighted. But it's still unusable for me until they fix the main issues.
2014/01/10 08:59:30
Splat
> I could as well use Winamp to play audio
 
RIP Winamp, died 20th December 2013.
 
http://blog.chron.com/techblog/2013/11/llamas-whipped-no-more-winamp-shutting-down/
 
 
2014/01/10 10:04:56
trnfoot
The playlist feature is a significant feature to many professional musicians, and one that sets Sonar apart from many other programs for live performance use. I find it extraordinary that Cakewalk have ignored this problem over 3 updates. I would have thought that the outcry a few years ago when they removed the feature might have been a clue.
In response to the 'workaround' of using X2 for live performance/playlist - you just plain shouldn't have to. Tell me again why I paid for X3! Very poor form indeed:(
2014/01/10 15:01:20
joden
+1
2014/01/10 15:21:27
Splat
I think they fixed a lot of bugs on X3D. Sadly yours was not one of them so I hope it will be fixed in X3E. Cake do have a heck of a lot of bugs to fix right now and the good news is they are fixing bugs even old ones, it seems the company culture had changed since the Gibson takeover.. The bad news is that none of this is going to happen overnight, not by a long long way sadly. They are playing catch up from the bad decisions of the past.

So in all good news, something will be done I'm sure, not sure when though.
2014/01/10 15:30:06
Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
I actually just got a few notifications of things being worked on in regards to the playlist for the next update...sooooo hang on just a bit longer guys.
 
We're sorry that we missed some things in the last few updates, but due to the massive amount of work that was required in VST3/Melodyne we just couldn't get to it in time.
2014/01/10 15:35:36
Splat
Result! - There you go, thanks Seth! X3E then.
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