Thanks as always Panu.
I dearly missed 8.5 until X3 came out, and to this day I miss my color layout - and believe me my eyesight is very different 4+ years ago.
Visualization in general is so much more important to me now. I use DimPro when I need to, but it Rapture & Z3ta would be used a lot more if I the GUIs didn't look so frustrating - and that's after years of understanding of how they work and really getting used to working with them.
I'm always grateful CW's innovating, but not having something I had in 8.5 in X3 blows my mind.