• SONAR
  • SOLVED: Without exporting, is there a way to convert CWP sample rates? (p.2)
2014/04/15 17:31:45
joden
All I did was bounce the tracks, do a consolidate audio and then run the R8Brain tool. Those projects with really intricate stuff as Craig describes, just have to stay at 48.
2014/11/30 05:06:59
ewb
Well... after years of wondering if this was possible, I have to say that your solution was about the most painless process imaginable Brundlefly. Thank you.
 
I have a project that I started on a different soundcard that didn't support 88.2 (my chosen, daily sample rate). The audio was nearly all scratch takes, but there was a ridiculous amount of synth programming, automation, tempo maps, some V-Vocal clips, plenty of fades, etc etc.
 
It took all of 2 minutes to open R8Brain, suss out what options I needed and successfully convert the project without so much as a manual (including the actual time that R8Brain needed for conversion). The next time this process is needed in my world it will require 10 seconds of clicking and 30 seconds of a bathroom break while R8Brain does its thing.
 
And every last edit / automation / midi performance etc is perfectly in place. I could believe that certain processes might not play nice and translate, but I'd like to see a definitive list of what these are. Sonar did complain that a corrupt audio region was found and padded with silence, but I examined and listened to every clip with a microscope and could find no affected regions. This warning disappears after saving the project.
 
I have to agree that this should be a sticky - I've found multiple posts insisting that project sample rate conversion can't be done, or that its problematic and a royal pain at best. The troubling part is that these posts span from a decade ago to very recent - lending credence to the idea that its something best left alone.
 
Realistically, I don't see why this feature isn't integrated into the core application. If Sonar is basing its project sample rate on the files it is loading (which it very apparently is), a Convert Sample Rate Wizard seems a minor endeavor (and very useful!).
2014/11/30 10:33:53
Anderton
joden
All I did was bounce the tracks, do a consolidate audio and then run the R8Brain tool. Those projects with really intricate stuff as Craig describes, just have to stay at 48.




Since my original response, I've used Sound Forge's batch function on the project audio folder, and it works fine. There's also a way to deal with the intricate stuff. Bouncing a clip to itself converts to a standard WAV file, but also, "saving as," specifying save with all audio with project, and checking create "one file per clip" creates a separate project folder and tidies it up by making sure the length of each clip is exactly the same as what it is in the project. Then you batch convert everything in the new project folder. If there are any issues, you still have the original files just in case. 
2014/11/30 10:38:43
Anderton
Instead of making this a sticky, maybe it would make sense for me to download R8Brain, provide some more details, and turn it into a tip of the week. Thanks all, great suggestions.
2014/11/30 12:11:27
brundlefly
ewb
Well... after years of wondering if this was possible, I have to say that your solution was about the most painless process imaginable Brundlefly. Thank you.

 
You're welcome; glad to see you found your way to this post. No doubt some of the "it gets ugly; don't try it" posts of old are mine.   It can get to be a problem when searching for solutions on the forum that there's a lot of outdated or just plain wrong advice; not much to be done about that, I'm afraid.
 
Cheers,
Dave



2014/11/30 18:40:23
ewb
The organization of all of the worlds forum-derived information is an active area of interest of mine. The amount of useful data on even the most niche topic is staggering, but it is dwarfed by the amount of noise that must be filtered (conversation, argument, trolls, antiquated answers, duplicate answers, troubleshooting steps, experimental solutions etc).

I like to envision that in the future there will be standard, conversational forums but also a sort of dynamic wiki/faq that is algorithmically generated and very to the point. Perhaps the underlying method would rely on the assistance of a post-voting system, moderator voting and cross referencing of other forums that support the technology. If multiple, valid solutions present themselves for a particular problem ("How do you stop a puppy from chewing your stuff?") then they should be presented with a similarly dynamically generated list of pros / cons / caveats per each solution.

Questions with subjective answers are a bit more difficult to approach, as taste and culture dont particularly march to the same beat as our logical / technical understanding of the universe. But, for each such question there is usually a pretty grounded set of answers defining the problems involved in truly answering it. For example - "What is the best preamp!??!!" Well, technically there is no such... (etc).

Were a user to attempt posting a question that is already well documented, the forum interface itself would kindly direct the user to said documentation (with an option to post the question anyway, were there still confusion).

Perhaps its all poppycock and wishful thinking, but I'd like to believe one of the data giants is working on it in secret.

Sorry to hijack / rant. My coffee is finished and I'm off!
2014/12/01 02:16:37
maltastudio
Great idea thanks guys I wished i could do this for ages,without realizing  how easy it is.
I tried it and worked great.
 
Peace
2014/12/01 07:27:40
lawp
ewb
The organization of all of the worlds forum-derived information is an active area of interest of mine. The amount of useful data on even the most niche topic is staggering, but it is dwarfed by the amount of noise that must be filtered (conversation, argument, trolls, antiquated answers, duplicate answers, troubleshooting steps, experimental solutions etc).

that's the beauty of the internet - it's like real life, you have to use critical thinking :-)
while the sheer volume can be overwhelming, i suspect the ratio of good to bad info is roughly the same
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