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2014/11/19 14:17:18
carchela
Hi everyboby!!!
I've been far from web and didn't see all the replys. Thank you all.
My question started when I was doing a clockwork calibration and needed to record a new track with a content of a pre recorded track.... I was only possible making a rout with cabe (output of a pre-recorded track - input to a new track).
I also tried to record a   EZdrummer's track into a new track without have to export a file and import as a audio file.
2014/11/19 14:37:31
John
Sorry that doesn't explain very much Carchela. 
2014/11/19 14:50:18
carchela
John
Sorry that doesn't explain very much Carchela. 


Hey John, dont't worry...
I've learned a lot with the discussion!!!
2014/11/19 16:42:30
200bpm
carchela
Hi there!!!
 
I want to send a track to another track on sonar X3. Not to a auxiliar track.
I'll make myself clear. I saw a Pro Tools user sendind a track to another track and recording this on this second track the content processed at the first track.
Is it possible on sonar X3?
 
Thanks
 
Chris


This can be done with your audio interface if it has loopback.  It copies one of the outputs to a software input.  My RME UFX has this feature and I bet other interfaces can do it too.
2014/11/19 19:31:16
johnnyV
"I was doing a clockwork calibration and needed to record a new track with a (the?) content of a pre recorded track..."
 
I'm not sure if this might just be a language issue as we are still not understanding what this means??. My interpretation now is that-   all you wanted to do was copy one audio track and make a new track. 
There a few easy ways to do this. Copy Paste, Clone and  Drag and Drop using the browser from the audio folder. 
 
Or another guess is some people like to capture the audio from say u-Tube while it is playing into Sonar. 
I sort of think this has nothing to do what we are rambling on about which is the ability to record the output of a track to a buss directly within Sonar. 
2014/11/19 20:00:12
Anderton
johnnyV
Or another guess is some people like to capture the audio from say u-Tube while it is playing into Sonar. 
I sort of think this has nothing to do what we are rambling on about which is the ability to record the output of a track to a buss directly within Sonar. 



There are utilities for this, but I don't think this is what he means...although I'm still not sure what the issue is. or why recording fader automation moves is any less spontaneous than recording the audio that results from moving faders.
2014/11/19 20:49:28
johnnyV
I think most of us are with you on that part Craig. I myself would probably never use the feature. 
I LOVE automation. I've been automating mixes since I first bought my Yamaha 01v powered by a midi track on the Atari. Used to freak people out when that board started moving all on it's own :) 
I used to do things like automate a short burst of EQ on a vocal track to kill a plosive. You could get pretty detailed and it was all done with Midi commands. My mixer is still set to send/ receive channel 16. 
And automating my Alesis Midi Verb II , My GR 50 I even had a Marshall JMP10? Pre amp with midi control. I miss that stuff. Automation = Work now , play later :> 
2014/11/26 08:40:59
carchela
Hi guys,
 
johnnyV, "pardon my french"!!! Thanks for correcting me and my poor english!!! It helps me a lot to improve myself!!!
What I'm trying to do is simply addressing the output of a track for the input of another track and be able to record this new track. The reason here is not the what matters (I have a reason for need it - set my record offset), I just wanna know is if is it possible to do this or not? In ProTools and Logic this is a simple process.
 
2014/11/26 09:21:52
Kylotan
I don't think Sonar lets you treat a track output as a real-time input for another track, no. Track outputs and sends can be real-time inputs for buses, but they don't record, meaning that's fine for listening but not for recording. (If that's not good enough, REAPER is a cheap DAW and will let you route one track to another track, and switch the recording input on the receiving track to 'Monitor Input', so you can record it that way if you choose.)
 
However: if you just want a fixed audio copy of what your synth sounds like, you can use the Freeze or Bounce options in Sonar. That should work for your EZDrummer problem.
 
If, however, by "set my record offset" you mean "measure how long it takes to send output from Sonar and receive it again", then what you need to do depends on exactly what you want to time. If you're trying to work out your sound card's latency (eg. to do manual compensation) then routing within Sonar is a waste of time - it cuts out the sound card completely. To measure that, you'll need to use the loopback cable method. And if you're trying to time the 'internal' routing speed, then that is almost always zero because Sonar automatically compensates for synth and FX delays. But if you're worried that a synth is misbehaving, you can use the freeze method I mentioned above - ensure your MIDI note or initial audio sound is right on the grid, freeze or bounce the track, then check that the output audio is also still on the grid - if it's not, you've found some delay.
 
 
2014/11/26 09:49:09
Tom Riggs
I think the Daw he is used to does not have PDC and he is concerned about setting his timing. For the most part I find this unnecessary in Sonar although I have ran the loopback test to see if the reported round trip latency was correct.
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