how about not just turning this into another rant/speculation thread

Yes, it has been hijacked by the OP. It is not a "What do we know" thread. It is really a "surprises are what I'm afraid of" thread. Nothing can be done about that, the future is not ours to see.

yeah, our posts crossed i think, but at least there are plenty of other speculation/rant threads to join in on already

I suppose that even if Meng started to give away $100 bills, there would still be complaints...

John
A little faith and patience will go a long way.  
 

Yeah, I don't do faith. Never have. As for the bit about my post being preposterous, well I disagree. When I said I'm out of the loop meant just that. I've been trying to learn a new DAW and I've not been on the forum for months. I get an email about assets being sold and I came back to get the scoop.

I read the pinned thread which is 1% information 99% for he's a jolly good fellow. And some of that 1% of info is vague and open ended. And then I see lots of other threads here on the subject which are similar, very little info, lots of assumptions and  lots of hip hip hooray we're saved happy days are here again.

So I simply asked, what is known rather than assumed. And it seems that's now been answered. Not much at all is known. Someone bought the IP assets. That's it. That's all we know.

They say they intend to keep them as desktop platform. Nice if that turns out to be true.
They say they'll offer support. Also nice if true.
There is talk of taking the product in new directions but no details on that so could be good, could be bad.
 
Thanks to all for helping to clear that up. My apologies if you found this annoying (although no one said you had to respond).

You ask for a summary and then when you get one you go all conspiracy theory on us  The BL terms & conditions are standard for this kind of service - they are only getting your permission in a legally watertight way to stream your music or distribute it according to your wishes. You still have full control of it.
 
Regarding only being able to save projects to BL - that would be crazy. Bandlab.com doesn't seem to have a revenue stream. The new DAW and associated software is a sellable product that can generate a lot of revenue. Having it only be able to work with the Bandlab web service would make the DAW far less sellable. There will undoubtedly be close integration with Bandlab services for those who want them, but I am sure it will remain a standalone product in order to maximise sales and Bandlab.com will be a great place for them to generate sales as well.
 
Another reason why I am sure it will remain standalone is that BL have purchased it all at a very cut down price (I suspect) and if they can build it back into a great product with a big customer base again, it's value will go up massively as an asset and they could sell it on to another company for a huge profit if one day they decide too.
 
Of course, all we can do at the moment is speculate and that always leads to worry and suspicion. But, the great news is that Cakewalk software has been saved by what appears to be a good company owned by a very motivated, visionary guy who genuinely seems to have a personal interest in this software, seems to be one of us and listens to his customer's wishes! On top of that the main players from the Cakewalk team are back in the driving seat, but this time they haven't got their arms tied behind their backs by Gibson. That's a big improvement on where we were last November and in a week or two, we will know a lot more about where it's heading and I think the only way to feel about that is with hope and excitement.
 
I don't think we should get too excited about the first release of the new DAW formally known as Sonar though. It will be Sonar but rebranded, have BL integration added and LANDR (and maybe Soundcloud) integration removed. I suspect it will have the last update applied (the one we never got). It is possible we may lose some 3rd party plugins if there are licensing issues which can't be overcome before release and there may even be some new plugins to give a bit of wow factor to keep us all aboard. But given the timeframe, I don't think we can expect too much and I think some people seem to be expecting a massive redevelopment to come out any day which is just unrealistic.
 
To be completely honest, I don't yet know if I will be coming back to Sonar as I moved over to another DAW that's working out great for me. But I am very pleased Sonar has been rescued and I am excited to see what comes of it. If it looks like it's heading in the right direction as time goes on I'm sure I will be back.

Too much speculation and paranoia! Let's wait for more info. Some of these 'what if' 'Oh no' 'but, but' threads are pointless...
It will be what it will be and if some of you find that don't like it just move on.

35mm
There will undoubtedly be close integration with Bandlab services for those who want them, but I am sure it will remain a standalone product in order to maximise sales and Bandlab.com will be a great place for them to generate sales as well.

So everyone's complaining about me starting this thread, but this is exactly what I'm talking about. The quote above is stated as though its fact but its nothing more than speculation.
 

Another reason why I am sure it will remain standalone is that BL have purchased it all at a very cut down price (I suspect)

You suspect. The tread title asked for what we know, and you offer what you suspect. 
 
 
 

On top of that the main players from the Cakewalk team are back in the driving seat, but this time they haven't got their arms tied behind their backs by Gibson.

And you know this how?
 

It will be Sonar but rebranded, have BL integration added and LANDR (and maybe Soundcloud) integration removed. I suspect it will have the last update applied (the one we never got). It is possible we may lose some 3rd party plugins if there are licensing issues which can't be overcome before release and there may even be some new plugins to give a bit of wow factor to keep us all aboard.

Thanks for all those facts. Oh wait...
 
 

Another idiot blocked.

Skyline_UK
Another idiot blocked.

Oh the shame. How will I find the strength to go on living?