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2018/03/26 17:28:15
Meng
Hey Johan, if you read the posts I've contributed on this forum, there are a lot of questions that have been answered in context that would normally be considered factual.

But I agree, words are cheap, and I am fully aware you don't have any reason to trust me yet. I'm a firm believer that trust is earned, not given - I suggest you wait a little bit more and you'll see what we put into action and then you can make a decision whether we've stood by our word or not. 😊

Many of the points in the previous post by 35mm have been addressed by me in posts on this forum, it's not pure speculation.
2018/03/26 17:40:29
JohanSebatianGremlin
Thank you Meng, you hit the nail on the head. I've no reason to trust your word yet and I don't. But that can change once words turn into actions.
2018/03/26 17:47:13
Brian Walton
JohanSebatianGremlin
Thank you Meng, you hit the nail on the head. I've no reason to trust your word yet and I don't. But that can change once words turn into actions.


He took the action of buying the assets of our beloved company/product, and has posted numerous reassuring pieces about the intent.  Those are actions whether you choose to recognize them or not.  


2018/03/26 17:48:41
Anderton
35 mm's "speculation" is based on much that has been stated explicitly in this forum. You asked for a summary, you got it. Come back next month, and I think you will find 35 mm's "speculation" will be very close to 100% on target.
 
I realize some people want to find a cloud in every silver lining, but c'mon. These kind of transitions are not easy, and the legalities are time-consuming. It's been only about a month since the announcement. Of course things can go wrong over time. Commodore computers, anyone? Toys R Us? Guitar Center? Gibson? Fender? But to assume they will go south before the ink is dry on the agreements seems pointless. 
 
2018/03/26 17:52:12
Anderton
JohanSebatianGremlin
Thank you Meng, you hit the nail on the head. I've no reason to trust your word yet and I don't. But that can change once words turn into actions.



You obviously have not researched who Meng is, and what he has accomplished so far in addition to BandLab. He is a doer and he has proven that with his actions. 
 
He's too modest to go through all that here. The facts speak for themselves for those who bother to look them up.
2018/03/26 18:02:26
sharke
So if the answers aren't given in any of the stickies or countless other threads which talk about the same thing, what makes you think they'll magically appear in this one? Did you think that those who have the "golden answers" have  been sitting around waiting for a thread entitled "What do we know?" 
 
It seems like you've already read those answers, given that you said you read the stickies. So the whole purpose in starting this thread is to construct yourself a platform on which to express your skepticism of the statements Bandlab have made thus far. 
 
Sonar will be taken in the direction that its new owners feel is the necessary direction to make it profitable. The Sonar that you know and love - the program as it stands today and everything associated with it - was clearly not profitable enough, and hence a significant change in direction is inevitable. You'll either like the results or not. 
 
One thing's for sure - there are those among Sonar's long term die-hard "I never connect my DAW the internet" crowd who will get themselves all of a flutter at the very thought of any cloud/social media/collaboration element in the new app, and some who will whip themselves into a frenzy of paranoia at the thought of BandLab spying on them, or of nefarious parties getting their hands on their music and somehow claiming ownership of it when they're not looking. Such concerns are likely to be greatly exaggerated and/or completely unfounded, but if you're so concerned about using a DAW that has no connectivity or contact with anyone or anything else then there are plenty to choose from. 
2018/03/26 18:19:47
scook
JohanSebatianGremlin
no one said you had to respond

This is a public forum and people responded accurately to your initial post. You too did not have to respond and in doing so change the subject, insult the people who have communicated about the transition, fabricate a future you do not like and then complain about it. I will keep your admonition in mind, I suggest you do the same.
 
 
2018/03/26 18:29:31
jpetersen
Every response bumps this to the top.
2018/03/26 18:35:09
abacab
meng
Hey Johan, if you read the posts I've contributed on this forum, there are a lot of questions that have been answered in context that would normally be considered factual.

But I agree, words are cheap, and I am fully aware you don't have any reason to trust me yet. I'm a firm believer that trust is earned, not given - I suggest you wait a little bit more and you'll see what we put into action and then you can make a decision whether we've stood by our word or not. 😊

Many of the points in the previous post by 35mm have been addressed by me in posts on this forum, it's not pure speculation.



Meng, you are truly a class act, and I admire your patience and tactfulness! 
2018/03/26 18:52:58
JohanSebatianGremlin
Anderton
JohanSebatianGremlin
Thank you Meng, you hit the nail on the head. I've no reason to trust your word yet and I don't. But that can change once words turn into actions.



You obviously have not researched who Meng is, and what he has accomplished so far in addition to BandLab. He is a doer and he has proven that with his actions. 
 
He's too modest to go through all that here. The facts speak for themselves for those who bother to look them up.


I've read up on him. Still skeptical.
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