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2011/10/13 06:07:48
FastBikerBoy
I've never really messed around much with the FX Chains before, but today spent some time setting up a chain that I may use fairly often for my master buss - T-racks Compressor & EQ and some metering, assigned the knobs I wanted and all worked well with ACT on the FX CHain interface.

Then I thought I'd tweak a couple of controls on the EQ that are not assigned to the FX UI. Double clicked the EQ module, T-Racks EQ opens, click on interface twiddle knobs on ACT controller (BCF 2000) and........ nothing. Checked nothing had gone screwy with the controller, opened up properties box and there are the FX chain parameters assigned to controls but no EQ. Click on EQ again, nothing.

Please tell me I'm missing something fairly obvious here. If I can't control individual FX Chains modules via ACT when I open their interfaces it pretty much makes FX Chains a waste of time for me. I'd have to use a mouse.

Is there a way of controlling the individual FX via ACT? Help/ideas appreciated as always.
2011/10/13 08:05:22
pagec
I agree. I can't get my control surace to control (an example) the Pro Channel Eq knobs comprehensively.Takes away the usability for me. 
2011/10/13 08:45:56
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
The idea behind FXChains is to provide a composite object that hides the underlying effects. There is no way via ACT to switch between the chain parameters and the constituent effects. Even if we did that (which would be complex) it would be pretty confusing to know what the current context was via an act surface.
The recommended use when using chains is to use the assignable parameters to control the individual effects and not manipulate the effects directly.
If you want full control of all individual effect parameters (via ACT) don't use a chain, just patch the effect directly.
2011/10/13 08:58:10
The Maillard Reaction
Noel says

"If you want full control of an effect [with ACT] don't use a chain."


IIRC, If you are willing to use a mouse, track ball, or pen tablet with your FX Chain 2.0 you can always work [around] with any parameter you want within the actual efx GUI.

best regards,
mike


2011/10/13 09:06:52
pagec
Hi Noel.
 
Ok Understand re chains. Thanks.
 
But you say if you want full control of an effect don't use chains. Can I get full control of Pro-channel ie all knobs in the EQ for example when its not even in a chain ?
2011/10/13 09:52:55
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
yes you have full access to the effect via its gui when its in a chain, just not via act.
 
2011/10/13 09:56:25
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
yes you have full access to pro channel via act
2011/10/13 11:53:00
pagec
Hi Noel, Thanks for answer.
 
I re read my question and I posed it wrongly... sorry.
 
What I'm asking is.................is there access to all the pro-channel knobs and settings from a control surface. I know you have to set it up to do it but is it technically possible.  My understanding it is not only some. so in case of pro channel eq not all the knobs so not much use. I'm not even cosidering fx chains just pro-channel on its own. Can you clarify.
 
Sorry for not being specific and thanks in advance
 
 
2011/10/13 13:51:45
Freddie H
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
]

The idea behind FXChains is to provide a composite object that hides the underlying effects. There is no way via ACT to switch between the chain parameters and the constituent effects. Even if we did that (which would be complex) it would be pretty confusing to know what the current context was via an act surface.
The recommended use when using chains is to use the assignable parameters to control the individual effects and not manipulate the effects directly.
If you want full control of an effect don't use a chain.

 
 
Aha..OK
 
If ACT is confusing, why can't you just implement simpel MIDI learn/MIDI control of all the user implemented Nobs and Faders in the FX chain GUI instead. As far as I understand that wouldn't cause any conflict with ACT system-
 
Best Regards
Freddie
2011/10/13 14:23:25
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
What I'm asking is.................is there access to all the pro-channel knobs and settings from a control surface.

 
Yes but only through ACT. You will have to ACT learn any parameters you wish to use from the surface.
The VS-700 allows you to access the original 3 prochannel built in effects directly even when not in ACT mode but not any of the new dynamic ones. For other new and upcoming modules you will have to use ACT to access them.
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