• SONAR
  • lifetime updates (p.5)
2018/03/25 16:26:10
KIKO CUETO
Si pero sonar nos prometio practicamente lo mismo ahora [<font][<font]BandLab deberia considerar esto.
 
2018/03/25 16:39:31
Wookiee
KIKO CUETO
First comment translation 
Hello, I think this complicates everything we want, Gibson let it ring in a corner, and BandLab qizas have good intentions, but I think that if there are people who have the option for life, this You can never forget.  It's like an extra of my car if I pay for that button the house has to answer me and if the new house compares it, it has to know this, I believe that legally there is some law that protects us, I am not Expert but it would be interesting if this has legal possibility.BandLab should be consistent.

Second comment
Si pero sonar nos prometio practicamente lo mismo ahora BandLab deberia considerar esto.
 
Translation
Yes but sonar promised us practically the same now BandLab should consider this ..



The original Lifetime update was sold by Cakewalk Inc a subsidiary of Gibson.  SONAR was a product sold by Cakewalk Inc.

To the best of my knowledge Bandlab did not purchase Cakewalk Inc only the intellectual property and certain assets.  This to me means they are under no obligation to fulfil that Lifetime promise. 

This would also explain why there is going to be a name change and other changes to the product, doing so removes that obligation to provide lifetime updates to SONAR because SONAR as a product will cease to exist .  
2018/03/25 16:51:56
bapu
Wookiee
The original Lifetime update was sold by Cakewalk Inc a subsidiary of Gibson.  SONAR was a product sold by Cakewalk Inc.

To the best of my knowledge Bandlab did not purchase Cakewalk Inc only the intellectual property and certain assets.  This to me means they are under no obligation to fulfil that Lifetime promise. 

This would also explain why there is going to be a name change and other changes to the product, doing so removes that obligation to provide lifetime updates to SONAR because SONAR as a product will cease to exist .  

Why oh why can't *everyone* understand this simple concept?
2018/03/25 16:53:47
bapu
And if BandLab chooses to honor LTU, it *will probably not* be out of contractual obligations but because they choose to.
 
Lighten up people.
 
2018/03/25 17:02:33
dappa1
I'm not switching.
2018/03/25 18:48:49
marled
bapu
Wookiee
The original Lifetime update was sold by Cakewalk Inc a subsidiary of Gibson.  SONAR was a product sold by Cakewalk Inc.

To the best of my knowledge Bandlab did not purchase Cakewalk Inc only the intellectual property and certain assets.  This to me means they are under no obligation to fulfil that Lifetime promise. 

This would also explain why there is going to be a name change and other changes to the product, doing so removes that obligation to provide lifetime updates to SONAR because SONAR as a product will cease to exist .  

Why oh why can't *everyone* understand this simple concept?


Because it is not that simple! Simple?
2018/03/25 18:54:55
BJZ
marled
bapu
Wookiee
The original Lifetime update was sold by Cakewalk Inc a subsidiary of Gibson.  SONAR was a product sold by Cakewalk Inc.

To the best of my knowledge Bandlab did not purchase Cakewalk Inc only the intellectual property and certain assets.  This to me means they are under no obligation to fulfil that Lifetime promise. 

This would also explain why there is going to be a name change and other changes to the product, doing so removes that obligation to provide lifetime updates to SONAR because SONAR as a product will cease to exist .  

Why oh why can't *everyone* understand this simple concept?


Because it is not that simple! Simple?


Oh yes it is that simple. It seems like you're the one making complicated for your self (and others like you) based on your *belief* that is is not that simple.
 
Cakewalk (who made the promise) is dead. SONAR Platinum will not see another version and thus SONAR Platinum is dead (from an update standpoint). BandLab is not obligated to carry on *any* Cakewalk promise.
 
The key word is "obligated". Which is a legal concept. Emotions and morals are not legal concepts unless a jury (secretly) decides that.
 
Is really is that simple.
2018/03/25 18:55:55
Zargg
marled
bapu
Wookiee
The original Lifetime update was sold by Cakewalk Inc a subsidiary of Gibson.  SONAR was a product sold by Cakewalk Inc.

To the best of my knowledge Bandlab did not purchase Cakewalk Inc only the intellectual property and certain assets.  This to me means they are under no obligation to fulfil that Lifetime promise. 

This would also explain why there is going to be a name change and other changes to the product, doing so removes that obligation to provide lifetime updates to SONAR because SONAR as a product will cease to exist .  

Why oh why can't *everyone* understand this simple concept?


Because it is not that simple! Simple?


But it is that simple.
2018/03/25 19:07:46
marled
Zargg
marled
bapu
Wookiee
The original Lifetime update was sold by Cakewalk Inc a subsidiary of Gibson.  SONAR was a product sold by Cakewalk Inc.

To the best of my knowledge Bandlab did not purchase Cakewalk Inc only the intellectual property and certain assets.  This to me means they are under no obligation to fulfil that Lifetime promise. 

This would also explain why there is going to be a name change and other changes to the product, doing so removes that obligation to provide lifetime updates to SONAR because SONAR as a product will cease to exist .  

Why oh why can't *everyone* understand this simple concept?


Because it is not that simple! Simple?


But it is that simple.


First of all there are 3 companies involved: Cakewalk, Gibson, BandLab.
2nd as far as I know the company Cakewalk is not yet closed, only further development of their products.
3rd I doubt if a company has tax debts that they can simply sell all their inventory to another company and then nobody must pay those old tax debts. It is not that simple, that's what I understand even if I am no lawyer!!!
2018/03/25 19:08:01
scook
Without discussing the legal status of the purchases from and commitments made by Cakewalk, there is still customer perception that BandLab has to manage. On that front, we have yet to see what they have to offer. I reserve judgement until that time.
 
Perception means a lot. For example, in the OP the claim is made
markarbogast
I finally purchased the lifetime updates reciently.

IIRC, LTU were sold in the last half of 2016. To some that might not be recent but it appears to be the case for the OP.
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