So all is as before, nothing is lost and any problems will be solved. Presumably sometime before the final throes of Ragnarök are completed, it will be clear to all what IP address will actually be accessing our old accounts and serving up downloads and activations. Since this forum has been scheduled for archiving and replacement, clicking on your forum user name at the top of this page  will probably not be a shortcut to your account forever. Will https://www.cakewalk.com/My-Account/... still work? Will there be access from the newly created BandLab accounts? Stay tuned.
 
Undisputedly and without question: The availability of online activation makes the magic key to server-less installation unnecessary, at least until the next change of ownership or failure of the current owner. All Cakewalk products, not just the application formerly known as SONAR will still be available and installable as before. 
 
btw Thanks to those who maintain and repeatedly post links to the relevant posts by the relevant people. A one post sticky with no replies allowed that covers all of this would serve the same purpose, but might not provide full employment to the cognoscenti who have read and discarded the thousands of irrelevant posts that now obscure the few relevant ones. When such helpful people can constrain their natural inclination to imply that everyone else is lazy, stupid or paranoid, their work is appreciated. 
 

Karyn

azslow3
PS. Trolling hosts in the serious thread without single off-topic statement. That is where we are...

p.s.  The Hosts are users just like everyone else. We have the same information as everyone else.  Unlike everyone else we're expected to read just about everything that is posted.  Seeing the same questions based on false rumour and speculation asked over and over is very frustrating...  Yes we are (mostly) human.  No I do not apologise for a feeble attempt at adding a little humour.

I laughed 

Only thing -- I would have been more comforted, after signing up at Bandlab, to have hit a landing page that acknowledged I was a Sonar guy. It looks like a site where you post your own music, not particularly interesting to me.

 

Only the final version of SONAR (Artist, Producer and Platinum) and Home Studio require the Authentication servers. If you go to "My Account | My Products" on the Cakewalk.com page, you have access to download all your versions you have registered that were digital delivery. Also on the "My Account | My Products" are the serial numbers and activation codes for all the versions you own - except the final version of SONAR and Home Studio, which use the Authentication Servers. So if you Have SONAR X1, X2, or X3, or Music Creator and earlier Home Studio products the information for your Serial Number and your activation key are in "My Account | My Products" for your login with Cakewalk.com.

I can't tell you how long the information will be there, but as of today, it is still there for my stuff.
 
 

slartabartfast When such helpful people can constrain their natural inclination to imply that everyone else is lazy, stupid or paranoid, their work is appreciated. 

My apologies,  that was not my intension.

SandlinJohn
Only the final version of SONAR (Artist, Producer and Platinum) and Home Studio require the Authentication servers. If you go to "My Account | My Products" on the Cakewalk.com page, you have access to download all your versions you have registered that were digital delivery. Also on the "My Account | My Products" are the serial numbers and activation codes for all the versions you own - except the final version of SONAR and Home Studio, which use the Authentication Servers. So if you Have SONAR X1, X2, or X3, or Music Creator and earlier Home Studio products the information for your Serial Number and your activation key are in "My Account | My Products" for your login with Cakewalk.com.

I can't tell you how long the information will be there, but as of today, it is still there for my stuff.
 
 

 
This has been said over and over and over and was just quoted above in this thread. Please read post # 7 by scook. 
As said somewhere else ,, must be a learning disability happening here. 
 
I've don't come here often but it only took a bit of reading in the sticky at the top to see what's happening and I'm pleased as punch! All good stuff. And a free shinny new DAW on it's way. Life is good. Ook! 
 

slartabartfast
Will BandLab be hosting customer purchases of older Cakewalk products on the BandLab site or anywhere else. Currently, if you own many of Cakewalk's instruments effects etc. and not just the application formerly called SONAR, you will need access to the Cakewalk server to activate or download the code in the event that you need to move it to a new machine. Will that access still be available, or will all our old software be useless in the future. The once promised but unspecified method to activate without the Cakewalk servers has apparently disappeared, and was never specifically given for products other than SONAR?

This is a highly complex question and our lack of a direct position is because we are still working through a lot of things here and there is still some way to go before I can give you guys a proper answer that you can hold us accountable for - we're less than 30 days in and transitioning data and other items from a more than 30 year old company, but I assure you we are aware of your concerns and are extremely concerned about it from the perspective of the community even if it is not directly the responsibility of the new company that owns the IP.

I really hope this doesn't come across the wrong way - but please understand that there are pros and cons of every deal structure - I will always try to explain as much as I can where able to and it is appropriate to do so.

Transparently, our biggest priority right now is on getting the new release out so we can move forward, but once that is in place we will be able to then looking at cleaning up other areas. I hope this makes sense and you guys mostly agree that this is the right priority.

My analogy to explain the situation is that we are a family moving house from somewhere we've lived for 30 years.

There's a lot to move obviously, but we have the luxury of prioritizing moving into the new house first while some of our things are still in the old house, thus relieving the pressure of moving everything over in one fell swoop and then having to throw away things that don't fit in the new house after the move. The pro of this luxury is that we can then take the time to figure out what can be thrown away, or what needs to be put into a storage container somewhere because it is important to keep but doesn't fit in the new house.

It's late here, I hope the above made some sense.

Thanks for this Meng and you analogy makes sense to this furry alien. 

meng

slartabartfast
Will BandLab be hosting customer purchases of older Cakewalk products on the BandLab site or anywhere else. Currently, if you own many of Cakewalk's instruments effects etc. and not just the application formerly called SONAR, you will need access to the Cakewalk server to activate or download the code in the event that you need to move it to a new machine. Will that access still be available, or will all our old software be useless in the future. The once promised but unspecified method to activate without the Cakewalk servers has apparently disappeared, and was never specifically given for products other than SONAR?

This is a highly complex question and our lack of a direct position is because we are still working through a lot of things here and there is still some way to go before I can give you guys a proper answer that you can hold us accountable for - we're less than 30 days in and transitioning data and other items from a more than 30 year old company, but I assure you we are aware of your concerns and are extremely concerned about it from the perspective of the community even if it is not directly the responsibility of the new company that owns the IP.

I really hope this doesn't come across the wrong way - but please understand that there are pros and cons of every deal structure - I will always try to explain as much as I can where able to and it is appropriate to do so.

Transparently, our biggest priority right now is on getting the new release out so we can move forward, but once that is in place we will be able to then looking at cleaning up other areas. I hope this makes sense and you guys mostly agree that this is the right priority.

My analogy to explain the situation is that we are a family moving house from somewhere we've lived for 30 years.

There's a lot to move obviously, but we have the luxury of prioritizing moving into the new house first while some of our things are still in the old house, thus relieving the pressure of moving everything over in one fell swoop and then having to throw away things that don't fit in the new house after the move. The pro of this luxury is that we can then take the time to figure out what can be thrown away, or what needs to be put into a storage container somewhere because it is important to keep but doesn't fit in the new house.

It's late here, I hope the above made some sense.

It's that simple . Are we clear? Kaffee: Yes, sir. Jessup: Are we clear?! Kaffee: Crystal.

Few Good Men.