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  • unchangeable keyboard shortcuts? Surely a bug .. (p.2)
2014/11/08 09:49:01
southpaw3473
I LOVE single key bindings. I have made a pretty extensive custom keyboard shortcut layout that is an absolute essential for me. I would be lost without these.
2014/11/08 11:06:27
Anderton
williamcopper
To some of the replies: nothing wrong with WANTING a certain keystroke to do a certain thing.   But the number keys, for instance, go to 10 screensets 8 of which I never use, and you can't alter it.  You can not 'unbind' these defaults, that's my point.

 
That is wrong, assuming you have X3. You can bind them to None, in which case the keys will do nothing, or bind them to something else...whatever you want. And after doing that, you can export the key bindings as a custom preset. If you don't believe me, check out the Digital Performer keyboard shortcut preset - keys 1-4 aren't mapped to screensets, but to the 1-4 mappings in DP.
 
I don't understand why people think they can't change the key bindings however they want. I don't understand why they don't export a custom set of key bindings, modify it over time, and export after each modification.
 
Can someone enlighten me as to the source for this? Is it an 8.5 issue and I'm wrong in assuming the discussion concerns the X-series?
 
I also don't understand the thread title. A bug is something that does not perform as advertised. What about keyboard bindings doesn't work? It seems to me they work as intended.
2014/11/08 16:03:45
KPerry
There is (was) a bug where binding more than a certain number of keys to 'Do Nothing' would crash SONAR, which was somewhat irritating.
2014/11/08 16:12:14
Anderton
KPerry
There is (was) a bug where binding more than a certain number of keys to 'Do Nothing' would crash SONAR, which was somewhat irritating.



Thanks for the explanation, that would indeed be a bug. I guess I've just never run into that limit.
2014/11/08 16:17:17
Anderton
FWIW - I just tried creating a custom keyboard binding set that assigned all the single-key commands to none, and was able to export/import it.
2014/11/08 20:02:07
BENT
Default key-bindings, (singular or multiple keys) are just factory default settings.
Personally no matter how long I look at key shortcuts Help file it seems non-intuitive to me. Whether others agree with me or not is besides the point. The real point here is that key-bindings are supposed to be user definable. as ampfixer stated...
ampfixer
Why not create your own key bindings. I thought that was a feature.

 
williamcopper
To some of the replies: nothing wrong with WANTING a certain keystroke to do a certain thing.   But the number keys, for instance, go to 10 screensets 8 of which I never use, and you can't alter it.  You can not 'unbind' these defaults, that's my point.  Seems such a simple matter to fix in the programming of sonar.

I think one thing that confuses people is, bindings that a factory default settings like (screen sets) if changed to a new binding of user choice and then  unbound revert back to default binding  
Anderton
 
I don't understand why people think they can't change the key bindings however they want. I don't understand why they don't export a custom set of key bindings, modify it over time, and export after each modification.

Can someone enlighten me as to the source for this? Is it an 8.5 issue and I'm wrong in assuming the discussion concerns the X-series?

 
I had no problems with bindings pre X series, as I think back 6, 8, 8.5 were fine and as I strain my  pre-frontal cortex I fail to recall binding issues with Pro Audio 8 and 9.
However, below are some of the inconstancy I'm currently dealing with.
 
1) Lost bindings.
As far back as I can remember I've used...
[ = Bounce to track
] = Export Audio
\ = Import Audio
Recently ( [ = Bounce to track ) started working intermittently,
So, I explored... Preferences/Keyboard Shortcuts/Locate key, and (Assigned to) states (Unassigned) as I said it works intermittently, if the binding is lost I don’t see how it can work at all.
 
In an attempted to delete/redo binding and with (Area) set to Global Bindings.  I firstly wrote “bounce to track” in the search field but bounce to track was not a listed option. How I obtained this binding in the first place is a mystery. I don't recall if I imported the KBN file from my old computer, but I think not. 
 
2) key bindings that aren't in the list and therefore are impossible to change like...
ProChannel Shift+I = Clip
ProChannel Shift+Ctrl+I = Track
ProChannel Ctrl+I = ProChannel
Configurations and option settings
Split clip at now time
 
3) Split for a short while appeared in the Search list
Not sure off hand when (Split clip at now time) was locked to key “S” but all of a sudden it appeared in Keyboard Shortcuts Search list along with (Split Clip)... that brings up a menu box.
 
Thinking to myself it was a change in X3 that I had missed I bound them to a numkey as most of my bindings are, but now they have disappeared from the search area again and Assigned to: states (Unassigned) but they still work as hotkeys and split track clips.
 
So I'm assuming these options like (split) are therefore still available in the registry, but that’s a dark foreboding place that bender and I fear to tread. 
 
Inconsequentially as it is, I'm a left hand mouse user, so that’s why some people think my user selected key-bindings numkeys  seem quirky.
 
I'll leave it at that for now, this post is long enough... Peace
 
 
2014/11/13 15:36:25
frankjcc
One thing that has messed with me for a few years now is losing keybindings, or so I thought.  I did in fact import old keybindings that I thought were not listed in the new versions of Sonar, and they still worked,  So I kept that set up for a while BUT HERE IS THE KICKER, Global keybindings are not All keybindings, they DON'T list all the key bindings. I think they called them Global for a reason such as, you can use them all over the Globe.  But most peoples logic would think you could find all the keybinding in something Global.
 
Anyway,  My favorite is bounce to clips or bounce to tracks and they are not in the Global, but they do exist.  They are in the Track section of the keybinding menu.  
 
So go look in all the sections in the keybinding menu and find your lost keybinding or some you never knew existed.
2014/11/13 19:51:22
BENT
Thank! You! Frank!
That was the missing link, I'll sleep well tonight 
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