• SONAR
  • Complex Time Signatures and Editing (p.3)
2003/12/03 08:48:45
Sedjwik
ORIGINAL: Andrew Milne
Unfortunately the insert measures problem has not been fixed in 3.0

No, it has not been fixed. Every time this topic comes up i'm glad to chime in with my frustration and angst that this has not been addressed in all these years. It just seems totally asinine to me that in a program as complex and complete as Sonar, i cannot do a simple insert of an odd time sig without literally screwing up the entire remainder of the song.
2003/12/03 09:33:45
BillW
It's hard to believe that in all of these years, this hasn't been corrected. I have run into this myself, and didn't recognize it as a problem because I suspected user error. :) I'm starting a new project that will require time signature changes (prog rock!). It sounds like it's going to be a headache to do with Sonar.

Does anybody know what Cakewalk's stance is on this? Have they stated that it wasn't important enough to address it?
2003/12/03 09:55:56
Sedjwik
ORIGINAL: BillW
Does anybody know what Cakewalk's stance is on this? Have they stated that it wasn't important enough to address it?

In thier silence, yes.

Hey, another progrocker, cool. As long as you have a set arrangement and get all your time changes laid out first, you'll be fine. If however you decide you want a few 11/8 bars in the middle of that 5/4 section, you're screwed. Be prepared for what could be hours of hair-pulling madness trying to make it work. Sadly, i have actually opted to NOT make such changes to a song, even tho i wanted to, simply because i was not willing to hack things to shreds to make it work.
2003/12/03 10:29:28
Jon Bryson
Adding another voice to the mix...

I am currently using 2.2 and this has been a frustration for me. I bought Sonar in hopes that it would help streamline the compositional process but have found that when I want to change a time sig for one measure that I've already recorded it messes up the timing for everything behind it. I don't think this is an especially esoteric feature we're asking for here.

However, if they can fix that, I will be extremely happy with Sonar. Otherwise, I'm shopping for a product that lets me work the way I prefer.

Jon Bryson
2014/11/11 16:35:05
stickman393
As far as I can tell, no advances have been made on this functionality as of SONAR X3. It seems to be as awkward to use (for complex signature timeline editing) as ever.
 
That's kind of sad.
2014/11/11 19:53:36
Living Room Rocker
I use a method of split and bounce which requires extra steps, but it is better than having to go back through the project and make fixes.  So, where I want to add measures I make a split and bounce the surrounding clips before adding new measures. (I might split at every meter change throughout the project.)  I would do the same if I want to copy measures: split, bounce, add a measure with corresponding time sig. then paste.
 
Kind regards,
 
Living Room Rocker
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