• SONAR
  • Latency with a Dell Laptop (p.2)
2014/11/06 11:45:47
johnnyV
I have to hard drives, (one in place of the dvd drive (7200rpm 1tb) for samples
the system hard drive is the stock one, I haven't changed it out yet... Not sure that would cause so many pops, clicks, and messages about the computer being to slow to play back. 
 
Just a few things from my experience with laptops.
 
First, it looks like you have your DPCLAT under control. But I imagine that is the report when your laptop is sitting idle. I would also run the test with Sonar open.
 To bad the old Thesycon latency checker doesn't support windows 8, (it will read a false 1000us). I liked the way you could leave it running as you messed with things.  
 
The OS drive (? you don't give details) might be the problem as well, 5600 RPM laptop drives are a well known issue. 
Also is it more than 50% full ? 
If it were me I'd either use the 7200 drive for all my projects or swap out the original drive for a SSD. 
Also , your interfaces situation. First, don't use the M Audio fast track, I owned one,, It is a turkey, it was designed for W XP and I doubt stability with W8. 
The Pre Sonus will have better drivers , but even they are reported to be so so, Reading reviews shows you'll need to keep your buffer size above 256 and possibly higher. 
Double ,double check that you are using the Presonus as your timing master and in ASIO mode in Sonars preferences. 
I see the Focusrite is only a headphone gizmo, don't hook it up while testing. There is an issue with it because you cannot use 2 ASIO devices at the same time. Deal with that later.
 
One last detail that you might not want to hear, There are certain laptops that will just not work at all for audio. It's due to the BIOS and nothing can fix this. My son bought a top of the line Dell for audio and had this issue. He could not return it because it was technically not broken.  Audio is not on the radar of companies making computers. 
 
 
 
 
2014/11/06 13:10:43
CJaysMusic
Have you been gifted a sound card with good 64bit Window 8 drivers?
 
A good sound card will get rid of your latency issues, as long as your laptop(s) meet the minimum requirements to run Sonar X series
2014/11/06 15:51:53
dubdisciple
CJaysMusic
Have you been gifted a sound card with good 64bit Window 8 drivers?
 
A good sound card will get rid of your latency issues, as long as your laptop(s) meet the minimum requirements to run Sonar X series




That's kind of true and not at the same time when it comes to laptops. I know personally that no sound card or driver will overcome issues caused by some of the items mentioned in this and other threads.  
 
As I mentioned in another thread, turn off any function you are not using when using laptop for music. Go to control panel and sound devices and look for odd additional devices. These are often for HDMI sound and conflict with onboard and asio drivers. Turn of antivirus, paricularly real-time applications. Since you should have wireless disabled, you won't need it during music sessions. Turn off backround and scheduled tasks like sceduled defrags and updates. Check startup tab in msconfig to remove unnecessary items that start automatically. Go through your services and disable stuff you don't need. Many would be surprised how often their computers are running various processes. I thought my very powerful laptop was uselesd for music  until i turned everthing off.
2014/11/06 19:12:21
robert_e_bone
OK - couple of questions:
 
1.  In Sonar Preferences, what is the Driver Mode set to? 
 
2.  What is your connected audio interface's ASIO Buffer Size set to, when you are experiencing these dropouts?  
 
3.  What are your Sonar-reported Latency values being shown as in Preferences?
 
4.  For the project that you are having audio dropouts, does the problem seem to 'go away' if you press the letter 'E' on your computer keyboard just prior to hitting play?  (the letter 'E' is a Sonar key binding shortcut to cause all of a given project's loaded effects to be bypassed - hitting E again after testing this out will turn all loaded effects back on).  If this test makes the dropouts go away, then there is probably one or more plugins loaded that are causing the dropouts - and that can be sorted out.
 
So, please review and respond to the above and (in addition to the other info we have above from the other posts) let's see if we can get you fixed up.
 
Bob Bone
 
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