• SONAR
  • Sonar survey vouchers (p.7)
2014/10/28 10:06:32
dwardzala
I also opted in for the phone survey.  I picked up the Expander/Gate PC module since i didn't already have it.
2014/10/28 13:54:27
Andrew Rossa
sharke
I found this question very annoying: 
 
 
33. How often do you want to see available updates for your software?
Monthly
Quarterly
Bi-Annually
Annually
Less often than once a year
Never
 
Why isn't there an option for "whenever they're well and truly ready, and not before"? 


That's implied. The question is meant to understand how you adapt to new features. Do you like to get them all on an annual basis, or do you want to see them rolled out more consistently throughout the  year. Is every month too much and would you like to see them quarterly. Don't be annoyed :)
2014/10/28 13:58:33
Andrew Rossa
superdan54
Saw there was an optional 20-minute phone survey you can opt-in for...any one know if there is another incentive for signing up for that?


Only the pleasure of talking to us :)
 
It's optional of course.
2014/10/28 14:00:34
Andrew Rossa
Paul P
Thanks for the heads up.  I wasn't thrilled to see all the questions related to subscriptions as I will never buy a subscription based product.  Hopefully enough of us let it be known that we don't like the idea.  But then, all you immediate upgraders are more or less already subscribed.
 
I was happy to get three videos for free though.  Thank you Cakewalk.  I get to sing along with Karl's great voice one more time.
 


I am sorry you weren't thrilled. The idea was to try and understand how customers are purchasing software today. It's not meant to be an indication that we will be adopting an Adobe style model. We are just trying to understand usage and purchasing behaviors. Since when is data such a bad thing?
2014/10/28 15:28:19
digimidi
Andrew,
It just "smelled" like Cakewalk was sniffing around about the subscription concept and I'm glad to hear that Cakewalk is probably not moving in that direction.  FWIW, I used to faithfully purchase most updates of Adobe Photoshop, but after V6, they went to the monthly thing.  Despite the fact that Photoshop is a superior product, I decided to move to Corel Paintshop Pro and that's where I'll probably stay...Love Cakewalk Sonar and the premise is working well and would hate to see it change.
2014/10/28 15:41:50
dubdisciple
digimidi
Andrew,
It just "smelled" like Cakewalk was sniffing around about the subscription concept and I'm glad to hear that Cakewalk is probably not moving in that direction.  FWIW, I used to faithfully purchase most updates of Adobe Photoshop, but after V6, they went to the monthly thing.  Despite the fact that Photoshop is a superior product, I decided to move to Corel Paintshop Pro and that's where I'll probably stay...Love Cakewalk Sonar and the premise is working well and would hate to see it change.


Oddly, although Photoshop enjoys the largest monopoly of any product i can think of among visual professionals, it is also the one where you can get by the easiest wit holder versions. there is absolutely nothing i use regularly in current version that i did not use as far back as Photoshop 6.  Not CS6...but 6!! Only hicccup for me would be handling of RAW files.
2014/10/28 17:45:33
RogerH
I used my voucher to buy the softube mix bundle. I couldn't resist the 40% off + the 25€ voucher.
A subscription model of Sonar will probably end any future conections with Cakewalk for me. Hope that they wont go that route
2014/10/28 17:56:01
Andrew Rossa
digimidi
Andrew,
It just "smelled" like Cakewalk was sniffing around about the subscription concept and I'm glad to hear that Cakewalk is probably not moving in that direction.  FWIW, I used to faithfully purchase most updates of Adobe Photoshop, but after V6, they went to the monthly thing.  Despite the fact that Photoshop is a superior product, I decided to move to Corel Paintshop Pro and that's where I'll probably stay...Love Cakewalk Sonar and the premise is working well and would hate to see it change.


I think it's a valid question to ask people. FWIW, Adobe has like 1.8 million customers, many who love Creative Cloud. That being said, it's just research and I don't think you have anything to be worried about in terms of not being able to buy a perpetual license. 
2014/10/28 18:34:49
mettelus
I missed this survey, and after seeing threads on it, I am glad that I did... this post is sort of off topic, but in response to the comments above.
 
dubdisciple
digimidi
 
[...] FWIW, I used to faithfully purchase most updates of Adobe Photoshop, but after V6, they went to the monthly thing.  Despite the fact that Photoshop is a superior product, I decided to move to Corel Paintshop Pro and that's where I'll probably stay... [...]

[...]  there is absolutely nothing i use regularly in current version that i did not use as far back as Photoshop 6.  Not CS6...but 6!! [...]


Ironically, I am the same with Adobe; and even sadder is that I have a copy of Paint Shop Pro 5 (prior to JASC's acquisition, c. 1998) that is only 17.5MB, self-contained, and has the most-used core functionality of an image editor. It is easily portable on a thumb drive, so I often "wow" people that I can modify images regularly even on THEIR machines. Word processing falls into the same bin... how many "features" do I need in a program initially intended to replace the typewriter??
 
Technology can sometimes be a downfall in ways, and the thing I enjoy most are "disruptive innovations"... technology that has existed for 40-50 years, yet no one thought of "another application" for them. The best recent example of this is Nintendo's Wii... the focus of that product was to capture market from non-gamers (specifically women and older people) and the "solution" was simply to change the interface and make it social. HUGE win. The technology is so old, in fact, that Wii is the only product of its like that makes a profit on the initial sale of the box (all competitors take a loss on their box in hopes that people will buy more games).
 
There are, in fact, many such things with music that could be incorporated into Music Creator (they could also be incorporated into SONAR, but I would target MC for this instead) which would snag-in NON-musicians if done properly. There is absolutely nothing "bad" about getting people involved in learning music, but I am often concerned about new musicians viewing DAWs as a "technological, menu-driven nightmare" on first use. Make it "fun," and inexpensive, and there are millions of new users to be had.
 
Food for thought, anyway... sorry for the thread disruption (pun intended ).
 
 
 
2014/10/28 18:42:24
The Maillard Reaction
I'm hoping the $9.99/month subscription comes bundled with Spotify so I can listen to some music.
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