I Know ..long title. In any case. Every now and then I find myself not using a feature or plugin that I actually like ..in theory. Sometimes it is procrastination. Sometimes it is just being used to a certain workflow. I post this because, in the past, i find either a situation/need or example by another user will motivate me to revisit. Examples for me in the past included V-Vocal (It seemed to crash too much for me to bother prior to X3) and R-mix (I never bothered until I found myself stumped on a filtering issue). Every now and then Ii will go through the menus and look at the included plugs and think "I am probably missing out by not using this". The first one that comes to mind for me is TH2 Producer. I have nothing bad to say about it. I tried it, thought it sounded good and then..a presets pack was given to us and I found the process very unintuitive and it just kind of made me not think about TH2. It was just too easy for me to grab one of my versions of previous Sonar included guitar apps like Guitar rig le 4, other third party plugs or guitar geared fx chains included in Sonar (Some of which include TH2 but that's kind of buried if you just drop in a preset and start playing). Since I'm always looking for ways to minimize my third party plugins not included in Sonar, I have decided to start using it more. Anyone else have similar experiences? Also, I have always like the idea of Matrix but can never get myself to actually use it more than dinking around.