a big + 1 on getting the Addictive Drums , and Melodyne  w X 3 . theres also a few  plugs in The Studio Mixing Suite that I happen to like a lot ...
 
what I'm about to mention might already be easily possible to do in X3 . I haven't tried to do it yet ..
if someone here knows how to accomplish this please let me know to….
Samplitude has a feature where you can switch between modes that are optimized for working on specific tasks ..
default, editing , Mastering , power user …ect …ect  ...
the whole program changes when it is in these specific modes and a lot of the un necessary menus and clutter stays somewhat hidden …I know one or two folks here know what I mean ….
 
now w X3 i think it's possible to go there by using screen shot's , but I'm not sure how to get there ...
I would imagine that I would have to create work spaces , then take screen shots and then save this all collectivly as a template ? yes ? no ?
I would be most interested in being able to recall these globaly on any project that I'm working on ..
is that possible ?
 
I thought also maybe it would be sweet if Cakewalk created some sort of screen shot device chains / work oriented task environments along the lines of which I am talking about where SONAR can morph and simplify the users work space .
 
that's what I have for now ,
 
Kenny 
 
 

AT
My most fervent wish is for a more live environment for the matrix.  Building on the matrix, but complete control over mixing functions for each button and channel.  Basically, something like the iPad Scrathpad built-in.  A 16 x 16 grid or something, with a linear time line on top of it to place longer bits (and keep track of where one is). 

If Sonar doesn't beef up the matrix view, don't forget you can always rewire Live into Sonar.

Kenny I think you mean Screensets. I would look at them and try to see how powerful they are. 
 
I know what you mean about Samplitude having modes but in the end all that is is controlling what is shown. Sonar doesn't do that. Everything is at your fingertips at all times with Sonar. But, you could have a project with most everything hidden for example.

John
Kenny I think you mean Screensets. I would look at them and try to see how powerful they are. 
 
I know what you mean about Samplitude having modes but in the end all that is is controlling what is shown. Sonar doesn't do that. Everything is at your fingertips at all times with Sonar. But, you could have a project with most everything hidden for example.

Yes John you are right I meant to say Screen sets …I have used a few in a per project setting ...
I'm thinking along the lines of global screen sets that I can recall in any project at will .
 
Yes SONAR does show every thing and my 15  inch lap top screen does not offer a lot of screen real estate ..
it is simply to way condensed ..even when I wear my reading glasses it becomes a strain in a long work session .
 
sure , I have tried to hide a few things and use the muti dock to recall task oriented things ..you know , synths plugs , track editing….console view , staff view ..
the thing about the other program is in some of these settings , the metering and the editing is much easier for me to see visually ...
 
thanks, 
 
Kenny

Here is a demo song for X3 as it is displayed when opened.
 

Here is a shot of a few changes to the display.  I used C to hide the Control Bar and F11 to maximize the TV.
 

 
With the keyboard shortcuts and screensets you can do a lot. I would also recommend dual monitors.

Anderton

melmyers
Since I commonly set up a 1- or 2-bar count off, there's always a short amount of dead space at the front that affects the total timing.

 
Is there any particular reason why you don't use the metronome to give a one or two-bar countoff so the jingle starts at 0:00? You can have the metronome click only during the countoff, then shut up for the rest of the recording.
 
If you can't use the countoff for some reason and have to start at a place other than 0:00, at least you can use the marker to indicate the position of where the jingle is supposed to end, regardless of what you do with the tempo and MBT ruler. 

I quit using the pre-timeline count off long ago, because it doesn't allow for any note to be recorded a split-second before the 1. Too often, I would finish a whole take and then discover that my very first note was missing because I had struck it a fraction of a millisecond before Sonar started recording. Including the count off into the time line and then beginning recording with the 2nd or 3rd measure has never caused me any problems, with the exception of the timing issue when writing jingles. 
 
Thanks for the SMPTE marker suggestion, though. I will try it.

Reading this thread it seems (correct me if I'm wrong)... More of the same please just even better... and I suspect that is exactly what will happen :)

Please sir, more?  

One thing is I don't envy the CW developers. Its going to be hard top X3.

melmyers
 
I quit using the pre-timeline count off long ago, because it doesn't allow for any note to be recorded a split-second before the 1. Too often, I would finish a whole take and then discover that my very first note was missing because I had struck it a fraction of a millisecond before Sonar started recording. Including the count off into the time line and then beginning recording with the 2nd or 3rd measure has never caused me any problems, with the exception of the timing issue when writing jingles. 
 
Thanks for the SMPTE marker suggestion, though. I will try it.

Ah, so does this mean you're talking about MIDI and not audio? If so, given that life would be easier for timings if you could start at 0, wouldn't it be a worthwhile tradeoff to just enter that first note manually if it was before 0 and didn't register? My tradeoff is to hit the note a little bit late to make sure it "sticks," then move it to 0 after the recording is done.
 
Not trying to give you a hard time, just trying to get some insight into the process. Personally, I think Sonar's toolkit is well-suited to jingles, but if some feature could be added that would make really help the jingle-making process, I'd like to know about it.
 
I would think the idea of "0 is 0" is embedded deep in Sonar's personality, but that's just a guess. It might be simple to have a countoff not just add the metronome click, but enable a record buffer so anything recorded prior to 0 gets pushed forward to start at 0. Or something...