I seldom use PRV and never use Staff View, but I see the issues. My thought is that under the hood, these features are intertwined. I suspect that the many PRV changes could break other features that are internally connected. That seems to be a recurring theme with Sonar as it sits.  Lots of old code and a growing list of new features. Fix something on the right and something on the left stops working.
 Most of the new features come out 80% complete and they correct and tune over the next few releases. Many of the monthly updates listed as fixes are for relatively new features, not the chronic issues. It seems that any issue that's been a problem for 10 years will be a problem 10 years from now.

ampfixer
I seldom use PRV and never use Staff View, but I see the issues. My thought is that under the hood, these features are intertwined. I suspect that the many PRV changes could break other features that are internally connected. That seems to be a recurring theme with Sonar as it sits.  Lots of old code and a growing list of new features. Fix something on the right and something on the left stops working.
 Most of the new features come out 80% complete and they correct and tune over the next few releases. Many of the monthly updates listed as fixes are for relatively new features, not the chronic issues. It seems that any issue that's been a problem for 10 years will be a problem 10 years from now.

Or, in the case of staff view, it will only be more problematic.
 
This is really making it difficult for me to justify shelling out clams for SPLAT.
 
Let's see what happens during the next couple of months.

chuckebaby

jsg

Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
We frequently (annuallyish) investigate Staff View improvements, or even an overhaul. It's not "dead" nor "abandoned." It has just been "deferred" due to other priorities that impact a larger group of customers. Don't lose hope.

Two years and 5 months since the above was written, and no notation bug fixes.  The PRV gets fixes nearly every single release.  Reminds me of the "boy who cried wolf". 

Its one thing to voice your concerns but calling Bill Jackson "the boy who cried wolf". (Basically calling him a liar) is classless. Even the most frustrated need not resort to such dungeon/cellar comments.

I didn't use the term "liar", you did.   The Boy who Cried Wolf is a folk tale about a boy, not a man, who is being mischievous, not malicious, and people stop believing him. 
 
Cakewalk has been saying publicly and privately to me that the notation editor is about to get some attention.  The last time I heard this from a CW employee was back in January.   It's getting old.  I'd rather CW say:
 
"Listen, folks, we're never going to put any energy into the staff view, and we never will.  Get over it.  Enjoy Sonar for what it is".
 
No relationship, whether personal, business or otherwise, does well when people are led to believe that someone will do something when they have no intent or interest in doing it. Congruence between words and actions builds trust, a lack of congruence between words and actions reduces trust, it's basic human nature. 
 
I disagree with your ethical perspective.
 
 

Maybe that Reaper 5 has built in notation that to some point fixes triplets will make Cake reconsider when staff makeover is on todo list.
 
Still evaluating compared to Cubase notation, but seems obvious things are in Reaper - still lacking in Sonar.
 
Things in Sonar I think are well done was chord diagrams and fretboard entry etc.

I just found out that Cakewalk no longer sells upgrade licences so I'd have to pay the full amount to get the latest version. I'm the newest versions have many great new features but I use a lot of MIDI and notation, if I was going to shell out hundreds of dollars I'd go for Cubase.

Brettx
I just found out that Cakewalk no longer sells upgrade licences so I'd have to pay the full amount to get the latest version. I'm the newest versions have many great new features but I use a lot of MIDI and notation, if I was going to shell out hundreds of dollars I'd go for Cubase.

You might want to read Cakewalk's announcement from earlier this month: http://cwk.io/legacy
 

I've given up on Staff view. The new PRV is excellent, and for recording and programming midi, the PRV is (imo) more accurate anyway. Took a while to adjust.
 

I too fell your pain, Jerry. I have given up ranting about Staff View. CW has shown they are just trying to placate those of us that want fixes. They keep telling us what we want to here, while doing nothing.
Sorry Cake, but bugs, excuses and promises for 10 years, really? The entire Staff View could have been rewritten in less than a year.
 

Oh, no.  I didn't realize at first this was resurrecting an old thread.  Look at the huge number of posts!
 
Anyway, staff view improvements are still very important to me.
 

jsg

chuckebaby

jsg

Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
We frequently (annuallyish) investigate Staff View improvements, or even an overhaul. It's not "dead" nor "abandoned." It has just been "deferred" due to other priorities that impact a larger group of customers. Don't lose hope.

Two years and 5 months since the above was written, and no notation bug fixes.  The PRV gets fixes nearly every single release.  Reminds me of the "boy who cried wolf". 

Its one thing to voice your concerns but calling Bill Jackson "the boy who cried wolf". (Basically calling him a liar) is classless. Even the most frustrated need not resort to such dungeon/cellar comments.

I didn't use the term "liar", you did.   The Boy who Cried Wolf is a folk tale about a boy, not a man, who is being mischievous, not malicious, and people stop believing him. 
 
Cakewalk has been saying publicly and privately to me that the notation editor is about to get some attention.  The last time I heard this from a CW employee was back in January.   It's getting old.  I'd rather CW say:
 
"Listen, folks, we're never going to put any energy into the staff view, and we never will.  Get over it.  Enjoy Sonar for what it is".
 
No relationship, whether personal, business or otherwise, does well when people are led to believe that someone will do something when they have no intent or interest in doing it. Congruence between words and actions builds trust, a lack of congruence between words and actions reduces trust, it's basic human nature. 
 
I disagree with your ethical perspective.
 
 

 
I don't agree with calling out Cakewalk staff (on the forum they pay for and let us use).
I will leave it at that.