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2017/07/01 11:03:51
Brettx
Not sure if this helps but I keep the staff view open at the top of the window and use the piano roll for editing. Moving stuff is easy in PRV.
2017/07/01 11:45:17
interpolated
Yeh I do as well but don't mine. Need to try that out later.
2017/07/01 12:01:03
bwbalint
When moving a whole chord, maybe try using the Select tool, not the Smart tool. I am not at my computer till Monday so I can't try it. I know in PRV that will allow me to select multiple notes and move them.
2017/07/01 13:09:51
Elffin
I'm still confused with note value key shortcuts...
 
If change them back to the numbers on the keypad what functions do I lose!
 
Bringing back note value icons would be cool too... I could then even  use my iphone using remote desktop!!!!!!
Think I've said this a few too many times though!
 
 
2017/07/01 15:30:48
cparmerlee
Brettx
Not sure if this helps but I keep the staff view open at the top of the window and use the piano roll for editing. Moving stuff is easy in PRV.



I was thinking about trying that.  At least that would give one a visual reference to the notation as a double-check while working in MIDI.  OTOH, they highlights how weak the note editing is.  It seems to me the goal should be to have those two windows open, and to be able to operate on EITHER notes or MIDI, with comparable productivity and consistent gestures in either case. 
 
I realize we may be beating a dead horse, but I just wanted to point out some examples of basic requirements that go well beyond simply fixing the bugs and adding triplet support, without creating  notation system of the scope of Finale or Sibelius.
 
IMHO, we don't need more plug-ins.  The DAW itself is extremely robust.  The concentration should be on ease of use and productivity.
2017/07/02 02:47:40
jsg
cparmerlee
jsg
In that case better to just use SLIDE, and slide the chord over as many ticks as you need. 



That seems really tedious.  I believe working with "MIDI squares" or round notes should be essentially the same capability.  Drag operations that work in MIDI should work the same way when operating on note heads.  That seems like a very basic starting point.




Perhaps to some, but selecting the chord, hitting 3 or right-clicking "slide" is about as quick and easy as it gets. 
the problem isn't that "round" notes are better than "square ones".  The problem is that the round note, because of the staff, also quickly identifies pitch and chromatic enharmonics, and in conjunction with beams, stems, dots and ties, and filled in round notes and unfilled in round notes, expresses minute details in rhythm and meter.  That is the where the capabilities differ, if you're referring to the difference between SMN and PRV.   
 
 
2017/07/02 04:53:06
Kamikaze
I have never seen a decent video explaining how Staff view works. I think the Groove three touched it a little, but nothing that ever explained it properly.
 
I this Cakewalk should do one, and maybe they'd get why we are fussing, as the stumble through it. I'd want something more than 'Mary had a little lamb' too
2017/07/02 13:31:00
Brando
Kamikaze
I have never seen a decent video explaining how Staff view works.
I this Cakewalk should do one, and maybe they'd get why we are fussing, as the stumble through it. 

I don't think Cakewalk is unaware of the problems with staff view. They know. What to do about them, or whether to do anything at all, I believe, is the issue.
2017/07/02 14:59:57
Kamikaze
I don't believe any of them use it though.
2017/07/02 15:59:51
Brando
Kamikaze
I don't believe any of them use it though.

For sure. I don't blame them I don't (use it) either.
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