SONARtist
I give up ... I was not speaking about a fully-blown and public distributable immaculate sheet music printout.  All I need is a basic "handout" print-off which is given to musicians and then discussed (and manually corrected) before recording.  I could accept what is currently available in SONAR .. IF it printed correctly (e.g. triplets).  But there could be further enhancements, not just bug fixes, and I have voted on most of the ones submitted.
Thanks to all who added their requests.

This is all I am after really. Having done a few searches about MusicXML, I started to realise that even asking for a PNG file requires formatting and Rasterisation processes, something probably outside their skill set, and whilst this could be developed, maybe a can of worms. A workable MusicXML file is different though. It''s seems their are programs like LilyPond that could handle them, that are free, and probably some cheep basic notation programs. Without Music XML I can screen dumo and edit in MSPaint, but it's a fudge.
 
A few years back, when VVocal came out, someone posted a string quartet performance by by a non-pro quartet that was loose to say the least, it sounded all right. Then V-Vocal fixed it, and it sounded pretty damned good. Tools like these mean that for non professionals, amateurs can be an assett, but if they are educated through school, they will most likely need printed music. In Brighton, UK I'd see trombonist's on the bus, and think if they would be interested. I won't find them here, but maybe a cellist. I'd need a print out to have them play. Just to tell them to concentrate on there tone, would probably be enough for me to fix anything after

TomH
Done !

Staff View is dead.  No matter what Cakewalk says publicly it will never be addressed.  People need realize that.  This same thread has appeared in every release cycle since the 90's.  If you depend on notation Sonar is the wrong DAW.  There are other programs that have functional staff views that have not been abandoned.  

I wish this thread would be locked. Why?

Seth has asked that requests for features and fixes be posted in the relevant forum. It may not satisfy anyones desire to change the past but all I see happening is an elevation of emotion as each post builds on the preceding one. It's really of no benefit except to alienate the folks who inadvertently go overboard with their comments.

Please just follow thru with Seth's request and then put the new Cakewalk to the test and see if this time around something doesn't get done.

We really don't know what internal workings have been blocks to SV development in the past but please don't lets miss this opportunity to have a voice and have it heard. There are many changes afoot and maybe this can be one of them. Let's face it all the talking in the past has done no good, so there's nothing to lose. This time Seth has said what to do, so I say lets put Cakewalk to the test then you'll have the ammo to argue with today's devlopers in the milieu of new Cakewalk. I just want the best chance for the issues to be heard properly rather than " Oh here come the staff view guys again".

Most of this thread isn't talking about the past, it's talking about the present. Discussion may may raise awareness for users that don't see the validity of SV.
 
There's no reason to lock this thread, no one is being rude.
 
It's a Sonar discussion in the Sonar Forum, it's right to be active if people want to discuss.

vintagevibe
Staff View is dead.  No matter what Cakewalk says publicly it will never be addressed.  People need realize that.  This same thread has appeared in every release cycle since the 90's.  If you depend on notation Sonar is the wrong DAW.  There are other programs that have functional staff views that have not been abandoned.  

I know about Cubase. Are there other DAWS that have a decent staff view?

michael diemer

vintagevibe
Staff View is dead.  No matter what Cakewalk says publicly it will never be addressed.  People need realize that.  This same thread has appeared in every release cycle since the 90's.  If you depend on notation Sonar is the wrong DAW.  There are other programs that have functional staff views that have not been abandoned.  

I know about Cubase. Are there other DAWS that have a decent staff view?

Jerry Gerber (jsg) has compared the staff views of all the major Window DAW's and I consider him to be the most knowledgeable when it comes to working with Sonar's SV. Do a search on his posts.

Protools has integrated elements of Sibelius.
Digital Performer has one.
Magix's software has one.
Logic has one too..

btw free alternative to Finale and sibelius - try searching Musescore for publishing.. for free its pretty darn good!

michael diemer
 
I know about Cubase. Are there other DAWS that have a decent staff view?

The best DAW staff views are found in:
 
Cubase - (my favorite) even does some cool things Sibelius can't do.
Protools - Sibelius code - need I say more?
Logic - I own the last Windows version - really nice staff view
Digital Performer - started long ago with a staff view (just like Cakewalk did) but they have always been serious about it
Studio One - they bought Notion and are slowly integrating it into Studio One.

Thank You PBOGNAR, Elffin and vintagevibe. I checked out Studio One, a lot of DAW for the money, but one review said midi editing is not its strength. DP very expensioso. Logic's for Macs. I will check out the threads you mentioned also. My preference is to stay with Sonar. If they don't improve SV, how hard is it to use Sonar and a notation system simultaneously?