Mark Ellis
 
 
Turns out Reaper is really putting some effort into a quality notation view for editing.

I'm not sure this is correct. there is discussion there, as here, about the merits of staff view, and a small but vocal contingent of users pushing for one, but to my knowledge they don't yet have it. They may or may not be working on it. I am a casual member of their forum, just in case I decide to migrate, so I 'm not privy to any inside info, but from what I can gather it's not out yet.

Mark Ellis
So, I've been a Cakewalk user since it was on DOS. I do like to use notation view, so even though I've bought a copy of X3, I still primarily use an older version (8.5) because of the screwed notation view in X3. When I learned X4 had no fixes for the bugs I thought to look around to see what else was out there. I assumed I was on the cusp of becoming a Cubendo user, but came across this discussion in the Reaper forums:
 
 
Turns out Reaper is really putting some effort into a quality notation view for editing. I just downloaded a copy to try out. While I'm sure it's not fully baked, I just have to give up on Cakewalk ever fixing their software. I know they've mentioned the code is a mess and the guy who wrote it and understands it no longer works there, and I certainly understand they have their priorities (while the notation view might even be a priority to fix, the amount of manpower to actually fix it may be not worth it when they can add more shiny things to the program). But here's one user who, after more than twenty years with Cakewalk, won't be upgrading until they fix it.

Really?  I went to their site and looked over the user's manual and the website advertising, no mention of a notation view.   Is this inside information they haven't released yet?

jsg
Really?  I went to their site and looked over the user's manual and the website advertising, no mention of a notation view.   Is this inside information they haven't released yet?

Upcoming release, check their forum.

Kamikaze

Brando
While I read music well, I am more comfortable editing in PRV than in staff view, and only use staff view as a context view of a fairly basic arrangement, and to print out a rudimentary lead sheet.

Another poster made the suggestion of being able to view the PRV and SV in the same window, so I put that down as a feature.
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Piano-View-and-Staff-View-in-the-same-Window-m3153522.aspx#3153522
 
I think this could be a great way of becoming more comfortable with what is happening in SV, whilst editing PRV.but also vice verca when thinking about harmony. I the past I have tried having both windows open at the same time, but it was fiddly.

What I've taken to since I went to a dual monitor setup is having staff view open on one screen and prv open on the other.  This to me is a great way of working.

Please go and vote for it?

jsg, Jerry Gerber, I couldn't have said it better myself (or I would have  ): Thanks!
 
[Quoting you -] Since music notation has evolved over a 1000 years and the fact that many of the finest musical compositions in the world could not have been created without it, I wish that Cakewalk would consider the cultural, artistic, intellectual and musical value of it and fix the bugs.   It will only make their software better.  They've spent the past 10 years trying to please those who don't use the staff view or don't care about it.  How about now devoting a few releases to improving the notation editor?   If CW does this, Sonar will be without question the finest DAW on the market and people will talk. [/Quoting you]

I would, but I think a SV improvement at this time is a waste of resources.  There is a TON of new technology that CW has been adapting to, including vst3, which I think is more important to the software environment as a whole - because that will give them 5-10 years to focus on other functionality.  Personally, I would rather Sibelius make midi recording more accurate because I simply cannot use it reliably. 
I do not think SV has been abandoned by any means, I just think that there have been so many advances in music tech over the last 5 years that triage and allocation of resources has likely been very demanding.  One thing I'm sure of is when Cake does an update to SV, it will be done right the first time.

I'm trying to resist the urge to comment on some of the more colorful posts here.
 
As true or ironic as many of these posts are, I think we are better served by keeping things positive (I can be just as cynical as the next guy, and I am just as disappointed / outraged).
 
Maybe I'm naive, but Bill Jackson's posts struck a nerve.  He sounded genuine and he is one of the "deciders".
 
Share your SV suggestions but by all means, post in the Features and Ideas forum.
 
My concern is that when we continue to bash this product and sing the praises of other competing products, it's only a matter of time before the thread is banished to a less visible forum or just locked outright.
 
My 2 cents.

It is difficult at best not to be cynical when we have been waiting for almost two decades. SV worked better in pro audio 9 than it does now.

rabeach
It is difficult at best not to be cynical when we have been waiting for almost two decades. SV worked better in pro audio 9 than it does now.

You are the second person to have said that.
 
I was using another DAW during the time of pro audio 9.
 
Can you share how it worked better?  Just curious.