We frequently (annuallyish) investigate Staff View improvements, or even an overhaul. It's not "dead" nor "abandoned." It has just been "deferred" due to other priorities that impact a larger group of customers. Don't lose hope. We understand there is room for improvement and intend to tackle it eventually. Our new release model will allow us to budget time and resources more easily, so it's more realistic now than it has been in years. Thanks for being patient.

Anderton

Jimbo 88
You know it would not be so bad if you could rewire a notation software so that notation you create (say thru midi) would transfer into Sonar.

Don't people do that already with Notion or some other program?
 
And FWIW, the last time this was brought I'm pretty sure someone from Cakewalk said it was not a priority for the next update.

Edit:  Oh man - in the time it took me to write this, Bill Jackson chimes in and has the audacity to give me hope.  Damn you.  
 
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"not a priority for the next update" - does that mean the about-to-be-released Sonar 2015 we are being presented with this month?  Or over the next 12 months?  Or ever?
 
Not only is it not a priority, these limitations are still present in the upcoming offering:
 
- Triplets must occur in full sets of three.
- All three steps in a triplet must be notes (no rests) of the same basic duration.
- There can be no ties in or out of, or within the triplet.
 
Wow.  You'd think they could have thrown us a bone - like Ben Staton's note duration buttons in the SV view itself.
 
R***** looks like it will be getting a MIDI notation editor - and that was primarily an audio DAW from the beginning.  Granted, it probably won't be as good as our beloved, slightly crippled SV, but it is a new offering to customers who would like to edit MIDI with notation.
 
 
And I was sincerely hoping we would see some sort of Chord Pad / Track functionality.  Who knows, maybe in the next 12 months - but only in the Platinum version 
 
I think I've got more than I need for now in X3e Pro.  
 
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I do appreciate the article you wrote about creating a pool of chord snippets and associating them to MIDI keys - that will definitely inspire creativity.  I'm planning to something similar with the Matrix view.
 
And if can some day afford to get Melodyne Editor, I'd love to try to modify off the shelf keyboard audio loops.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
 Our new release model will allow us to budget time and resources more easily, so it's more realistic now than it has been in years. Thanks for being patient.

That (the new development model) is what I thought might help facilitate some improvement in staff.  And why I decided to continue to support CW and bought a platinum upgrade, over thinking about Cubase and Performer (just too many other things in Sonar I'd miss).
 
 
 

Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
We frequently (annuallyish) investigate Staff View improvements, or even an overhaul. It's not "dead" nor "abandoned." It has just been "deferred" due to other priorities that impact a larger group of customers. Don't lose hope. We understand there is room for improvement and intend to tackle it eventually. Our new release model will allow us to budget time and resources more easily, so it's more realistic now than it has been in years. Thanks for being patient.

Wow - I feel like weeping and spending money.  

In the spirit of being totally honest, though... I will admit that there are no current developments to the Staff View in progress.

 
R***** looks like it will be getting a MIDI notation editor - and that was primarily an audio DAW from the beginning.  Granted, it probably won't be as good as our beloved, slightly crippled SV, but it is a new offering to customers who would like to edit MIDI with notation.
 

Holy crap.  I just fell off my chair - NEVER though R***** would spend 1 min on staff.
 

 
 

cityrat

 
R***** looks like it will be getting a MIDI notation editor - and that was primarily an audio DAW from the beginning.  Granted, it probably won't be as good as our beloved, slightly crippled SV, but it is a new offering to customers who would like to edit MIDI with notation.
 

Holy crap.  I just fell off my chair - NEVER though R***** would spend 1 min on staff.
 

 
I know, right?

The assumption that those who don't  regulalry use the staff view cannot read or write music is pure snobby stereotyping. I have been reading music since 3rd grade and I know plenty of people with degrees in music who simply do not use it in their DAW. It's those kind of comments that have always lessened my sympathy for those complaining  about staff view.

Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
We frequently (annuallyish) investigate Staff View improvements, or even an overhaul. It's not "dead" nor "abandoned." It has just been "deferred" due to other priorities that impact a larger group of customers. Don't lose hope. We understand there is room for improvement and intend to tackle it eventually. Our new release model will allow us to budget time and resources more easily, so it's more realistic now than it has been in years. Thanks for being patient.

thank you. it has been a good decade + some of us have been waiting. sonar 1 or 2, I can no longer remember the last time some work was done. been here since pro audio 9. thanks for giving us some hope. waiting patiently for the new release. 

I believe there used to be a virtual midi app that could link a notation editor and DAW together...back in the 32 bit xp days...So  using Sibelius or other to hook up to a Daw, and when making the right perf setup, whenever you want to edit notes in opening the editor in the Daw, it would open up the notation software for you , all nice and buggy like....LOL ..but I haven't found it for, or sought it out for 64 bit os, as I feel it is better to do it all in Sibelius ...make a midi file and save that, and import...add the vst instruments......and go back and forth from there...less bugs.