• SONAR
  • No notation fixes! (p.23)
2015/01/24 21:53:29
vintagevibe
cityrat
 
In my perfect alternative universe - SONAR has the best staff view in the world, and the PRV guys are forced to have their music spaced in staff like this (ignore the keys below). 
 



 
REALLY interesting!
2015/01/25 02:19:56
YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
How can it not be assumed that Sonar will attract at least 10,000 new customers just by improving the Track View to the level of the other major parts of the program?
 
7 billion people, 3 billion with access to computers, 1.4 billion computers on the planet, at least 300 million can run Sonar, Sonar is available everywhere on the planet,...
 
There has to be a potential 20,000,000 customers who can and do read charts.
 
I cannot understand why the CW dudes would not see this improvement as a major attraction. Especially in significantly moving toward the goal to have Sonar as the default program in the best music schools on the planet.
 
The maxim is, "Get them Young, and teach them right."  This is to create life-time customers.
 
Raising the level and value of the Staff View is an amazing global business proposition.
 
At this point in the program's capabilities, I say it is one of the most important aspects of the program that can return truly significant profits.
2015/01/25 02:41:40
bapu
Kamikaze
How many unique people does it take before a point becomes valid?
 
BTW, its 31 unique people in this thread and it's not even 6 pages yet!


See, I said (a few pages back) that over the year my casual observation was ~35 people. Someone said I was joking. I was not.
 
BTW, the law of averages may take over here and when the thread gets to 20 pages the same 31 (+/- 10 more users) will most likely keep chiming in on why more users are not asking for this necessary change.
 
I always hold out for being wrong (I've been wrong before) but all markets/surveys/polls hit a saturation point and I imagine that 20 pages will be it for any specific SV feature request or bug.  After 20 pages it too will become repetitive.
2015/01/25 06:30:49
Kamikaze
Something I can't get my head around, is that In the lifetime of these bugs, Cakewalk has created and fixed so many bugs, hundreds I guess. Why have they neglected these. What is the real issue here?
 
In England, when you serve a pint, or a an optic dispenses a shot, it has to be the right volume. If it is under then you breach 'Weights and Measures' regulations and you can be prevented from selling that item. If it a member club such as a working men's club, weights and measure have no jurisdiction. Because as a member, you are not buying from the club, you are contributing to the upkeep of it stocks. So as member' now, we are part of the system. Will there be transparency and we finally have a say, or will they just legitimately sell us short.
2015/01/25 08:39:16
Royal Yaksman
bapu
After 20 pages it too will become repetitive.



It's not repetitive yet? 
2015/01/25 11:36:52
bapu
Royal Yaksman
bapu
After 20 pages it too will become repetitive.



It's not repetitive yet? 


10 GOTO 10
2015/01/25 12:13:02
kitekrazy1
  People are loyal to a DAW to a fault.  If it's that big of an issue then use something else.  It's pretty obvious the staff view in Sonar will remain as it is. 
2015/01/25 12:35:44
Jimbo 88
vintagevibe
cityrat
 
In my perfect alternative universe - SONAR has the best staff view in the world, and the PRV guys are forced to have their music spaced in staff like this (ignore the keys below). 
 



 
REALLY interesting!




 
YES!!  I love this idea.  Now imagine if you could choose your clef, open multiple versions at once.  That would be a very workable solution....
 
Please someone get this concept to the bakers!
 
2015/01/25 13:37:47
jsg
YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
How can it not be assumed that Sonar will attract at least 10,000 new customers just by improving the Track View to the level of the other major parts of the program?
 
7 billion people, 3 billion with access to computers, 1.4 billion computers on the planet, at least 300 million can run Sonar, Sonar is available everywhere on the planet,...
 
There has to be a potential 20,000,000 customers who can and do read charts.
 
I cannot understand why the CW dudes would not see this improvement as a major attraction. Especially in significantly moving toward the goal to have Sonar as the default program in the best music schools on the planet.
 
The maxim is, "Get them Young, and teach them right."  This is to create life-time customers.
 
Raising the level and value of the Staff View is an amazing global business proposition.
 
At this point in the program's capabilities, I say it is one of the most important aspects of the program that can return truly significant profits.




My guess is the CW people grew up playing rock n roll and perhaps other forms of pop music and either have contempt for, or indifference to, music notation, perhaps believing, wrongly, that it represents the music of Europe, snobs and other stuffy characters.   I might be wrong, but considering CW's neglect of the staff view and what seems to be embarrassment about it (never mentioned in their advertising as all the other features are) I might be close to the truth.  Either way, I am now disgusted with their company and will no longer upgrade until they fix the staff view.  CW's attitude toward notation is downright crappy and unprofessional.  Considering how much money I've given this company over the past 24 years (and many others who want better notation) CW, through its inaction, doesn't seem to believe in mutual support for its loyal customers. 
 
JG
www.jerrygerber.com
2015/01/25 14:50:11
Sidroe
To be fair I think we need to cut them a little slack about the SV fix. For all these years I don't think that Cake has taken SV very seriously because anytime it was mentioned by a minority of users we were beat down by the guys that don't have the least amount of interest in how to read or write notation.
Then the last several years it has been bought out and shuffled to two corporate structured music giants. Some familiar faces have disappeared along the way. Cake, IMHO, has been pretty much in dis array these last couple of years. I am willing to wait it out one more time, as long as I feel that maybe THIS time they are truly interested in fixing this.
I have to say that so much so far seems so good about the Platinum rollout. I HOPE that maybe we have been bought by just the guys that will take those of us who NEED the SV working seriously enough to finally fix it! That, along with more users coming up the pike that have to have this feature work.
Like I said, I can't ever remember a thread about the SV getting up to 8 pages! It hardly ever got mentioned for so long.
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