BTW,
My classical demos done in the 90's, I did by step recording and editing the  MIDI (in a DOS program !!!) It almost killed me...especially the ninth.
The staff view does not accurately represent the music being played but it looks enough like the real thing to impress the rubes.  

Bapu,
number nine and counting.

cparmerlee
The key point, IMHO is that Cakewalk needs to decide what they want to be when they grow up.  If they want to be a hobbyists tool, fine, but the new subscription plan is a ^$%^%# expensive program for a hobbyist.  And the Sonar technology is clearly far beyond what a hobbyist needs or expects.  But there seems to not be much of a recognition that professionals often live in a world of scores, and that trend is going to continue.
 
Fixing the minimal notation features in Sonar should be a given, but really, that is not enough.  There really needs to be more of a fusion of the professional notation programs with the DAW.

+1 to this

The new upgrade/membership program is NOT expensive. For ANYBODY.  I will spend more on electricity this month than I will spend for the sonar upgrade.
 
Most users will spend more in a month for soda and coffee, or gas, or ,...... Than they will spend on Sonar for a full year.
 
Sonar is the least expensive component of any DAW any of you guys own.
 
There are people who post that shows their signature list of stuff that totals well over $2K.
 
Even at the $20 per month payment, Sonar (with ALL the included stuff) costs less than 66 cents per day.
 
Explain to me how that is expensive given you will spend way more on everything else in your life during this year.
 
If you really think this program is expensive you should be using guitar tracks. Or some other "hobbiest" DAW software.
 
The BEST DAW on the planet is WAY CHEAP.
 
Time to buy a vowel.

Unbelievable. I just posted the previous post to a different thread and it was added here. With a date stamp of 15 minutes ago.
 
PLEASE Gibson buy some real forum software.

jsg
 
My guess is the CW people grew up playing rock n roll and perhaps other forms of pop music and either have contempt for, or indifference to, music notation, perhaps believing, wrongly, that it represents the music of Europe, snobs and other stuffy characters.   I might be wrong, but considering CW's neglect of the staff view and what seems to be embarrassment about it (never mentioned in their advertising as all the other features are) I might be close to the truth.  Either way, I am now disgusted with their company and will no longer upgrade until they fix the staff view.  CW's attitude toward notation is downright crappy and unprofessional.  Considering how much money I've given this company over the past 24 years (and many others who want better notation) CW, through its inaction, doesn't seem to believe in mutual support for its loyal customers. 
 
JG
www.jerrygerber.com

I'm not sure about previous releases, but in this release they have mentioned it two places.
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Features
 
Explore Guitar Features in SONAR

"Chord Chart & Tab
 
Notate, compose, or print music with standard notation staff view and guitar tab - perfect for guitar students and teachers"
 
Explore Songwriting Features in SONAR

"Compose!

Score your music with SONAR’s integrated staff view - ideal for songwriters and composers"
 
 
They have recently taken on two new members of staff (does that count as a pun here) that graduated from Berkley, though in some sort of synthesis major, but I'd expect competency in understanding a score to be a requirement of their education at such a place. 

YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
The new upgrade/membership program is NOT expensive. For ANYBODY.  I will spend more on electricity this month than I will spend for the sonar upgrade.
Most users will spend more in a month for soda and coffee, or gas, or ,...... Than they will spend on Sonar for a full year.

For the most part this thread is about Cake listening to users and in particular the state of Staff view.
But here is a rough price comparison.
Bought outright by a new user
 
Sonar Platinum $499
Studio One Pro $399
Cubase 8 pro $549
Reason $399
Protools 11 $699
Digital Performer 8 $499
Logic Pro X $199
FL Studio $139
Reaper`$60
Ableton Live 9 $749
 
I won't get into yearly costs. 
But on a strictly cost basis you should be using Reaper, yes?
 

YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
Unbelievable. I just posted the previous post to a different thread and it was added here. With a date stamp of 15 minutes ago.
PLEASE Gibson buy some real forum software.

Well maybe it will put my response into the thread to which you were posting.
 

You would think Berkley would teach notation, yes. In fact, you would think that anyone applying there would already know how to read music. But then, these days...
 
 
"They have recently taken on two new members of staff (does that count as a pun here) that graduated from Berkley, though in some sort of synthesis major, but I'd expect competency in understanding a score to be a requirement of their education at such a place."

Since someone is keeping count of unique posters who support development of the staff view in SONAR, please add my name.  I would much prefer to stay within SONAR to use notation for editing and composing, rather than the back-and-forth between programs I do now.

I hope one of the forum administrators is watching this thread and alerting the Bakers that there is a storm brewing here! I know we are a small number but this thread is beginning to remind me of a line in Shakespeare.
"Though he be small, he is mighty!"
If I misquoted it's been a while since I read that play! LOL!!!