michael diemer
Also, can someone clarify this for me: When you say "triplets," you are including quintuplets, septuplits, treskadikaduplets, and so forth, right?

Yes, there are two meanings to the word "triplets", the first being literal, i.e. groups of 3.   But any asymmetrical grouping of notes, such as 5, 7, 9, 11, etc. are also included in the broader sense.  Sonar can handle any of these, it's simply a matter of knowing the number of ticks in the note and advancing the clock that same number of ticks.  

michael diemer
This is really cool, being able to change a bunch of notes all at once like that. Very useful when Sonar keeps giving you E#'s, when a straight F nat would look so much neater, esp. in a complex chord. Now, what I would like to know: is there a quick and dirty way to change all my CC 7's to 11's all at once? I used CC7 in earlier projects as the on-the-fly volume adjustment, and now as I revise those works, I have top go through every instrument (of course it's full orchestra), and change them all to 11's. (I know this isn't technically a staff view issue, but since we're on the subject of tricks and tips...

I believe you can do that using the Find/Change dialogue box (called Interpolate in the context menu).  Best way to understand this is to play around with the find/change dialogue box, it's quite flexible and acts as a kind of "batch processor" for MIDI events.

jsg, Thanks.  I am very familiar with Find/Change (Interpolate).
 
Susan G, Thanks.  I had partial success.  If I use Fb? => E?, it seems to work, whereas Fb5 => E5 does not.  In fact, the Find/Change box changes the E5 to Fb5 in the dialog box.  You can see this happen as you hit enter and when you go back to the function. 
 
Using ? makes the function more limited, but I suppose one could do a Filter first to select only a specific octave.  So thanks for the suggestion: there is still a bug here but at least this will take care of many problems.
 
NOTE: The Find/Change box will not accept bb (double-flat) so there is no solution for that.

konradh
Susan G, Thanks.  I had partial success.  If I use Fb? => E?, it seems to work, whereas Fb5 => E5 does not.  In fact, the Find/Change box changes the E5 to Fb5 in the dialog box.  You can see this happen as you hit enter and when you go back to the function. 

Hi Konrad-
 
No, I'm not seeing that here at all. Could this be a bug exclusive to X1(d)? It's definitely worked for every version I've had, but I skipped X1 and X2.
 
-Susan
Edit: Here's a link to a .gif. I hope you can see it. I've been having some problems with links. http://www.dropbox.com/s...n/enharmonics.gif?dl=0
 
 

konradh
jsg, Thanks.  I am very familiar with Find/Change (Interpolate).
 
Susan G, Thanks.  I had partial success.  If I use Fb? => E?, it seems to work, whereas Fb5 => E5 does not.  In fact, the Find/Change box changes the E5 to Fb5 in the dialog box.  You can see this happen as you hit enter and when you go back to the function. 
 
Using ? makes the function more limited, but I suppose one could do a Filter first to select only a specific octave.  So thanks for the suggestion: there is still a bug here but at least this will take care of many problems.
 
NOTE: The Find/Change box will not accept bb (double-flat) so there is no solution for that.

Konrad, I know what's going on.  In an earlier version (I'm on X3e) there was a bug that would not let me change G# to A-flat.  I could do all the other ones fine, but that one didn't work.  I haven't noticed it lately, it may be gone in X3e.  If you are familiar with the find/change function, that is the rightt function to change a batch of enharmonic spellings at once.
Did you try it with another note to see if you are running into the bug I just described?
 

Thanks to both of you for the help.  Yes, I have tried the function with many other notes.  It seems there is some weird X1 code messing me up.
 
I plan to upgrade soon and maybe this will go away.  In the meantime, I appreciate y'all providing me a work-around!
 
(I know I shouldn't worry about enharmonics but 1-I am OCD, 2-I am classically trained and these things look wrong, and 3-I am really, really OCD.)
 

konradh
Thanks to both of you for the help.  Yes, I have tried the function with many other notes.  It seems there is some weird X1 code messing me up.
 
I plan to upgrade soon and maybe this will go away.  In the meantime, I appreciate y'all providing me a work-around!
 
(I know I shouldn't worry about enharmonics but 1-I am OCD, 2-I am classically trained and these things look wrong, and 3-I am really, really OCD.)
 

If you are making a final score, yes, it is right to be concerned about enharmonic spelling if you're writing tonal music.  Many composers who write highly chromatic and/or serial music are not concerned with correct enharmonic spelling because those spelling traditions are relative to the major-minor system of functional (common-practice) harmony. 
 
In Sonar, when using the staff view as a midi editor, I sometimes correct the enharmonics but often I do not and just correct it in Sibelius.  It's far quicker to make the enharmonic change in Sibelius than in Sonar. 

I think it should be at least an optional component as not many DAW do actually offer good notation support. Logic, Digital Performer (AFAIK), Cubase and Sibelius as a Rewire component. It would actually make sense to make it VST3 only, so the 16 track limitation won't be an issue and the use of MIDI banks to make export of MIDI an option between applications.
 

interpolated
I think it should be at least an optional component as not many DAW do actually offer good notation support. Logic, Digital Performer (AFAIK), Cubase and Sibelius as a Rewire component. It would actually make sense to make it VST3 only, so the 16 track limitation won't be an issue and the use of MIDI banks to make export of MIDI an option between applications.
 

I have often wished that Cakewalk's MFX format was more universally supported, and would love to see an MFX staff view/notation "app". Musiclab would've been the guys to do it but they abandoned MFX apps years ago. A lot of the development in notation apps these days seems to be in improving the quality of the built in instruments, which just adds to the overhead when loading the app in SONAR. If I already own an orchestral library I like, why buy (and load) something else built into Notion, Sibellius, etc? But, yes, in general, I agree with you that I would prefer a VST3 instrument version to Rewire.

I am using Cakewalk from 1991 and the notation is the first what I missed in the DOS version. Now I wish to have Sonar with better notation as well. Not to print in perfect quality, but to edit midi notes with notation the way how we can do that on PRV.