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2015/01/17 00:29:05
TomHelvey
scook
CadErik
 Also I still get midi "dropouts", press play and Sonar forgets to start and play many VSTis, one needs to stop playback and play again.


Dropped notes usually indicates too small a "Prepare Using nnn Millisecond Buffers" in Preferences > Audio > Playback and Recording. Try increasing the value to 500 or 750.


1. Hijack
2. s/Audio/MIDI/
3. So... how about fixing the staff view? We've b*tched, complained, speculated, submitted reproducible bugs galore, b*tched louder. What does it take?
Can't you get one guy to look at it and maybe fix a couple of the easy ones?
2015/01/17 00:36:21
scook
TomHelvey
 
Can't you get one guy to look at it and maybe fix a couple of the easy ones?


Are you asking me? I am not a Cakewalk employee. It was not my intention to hijack the thread. I was just trying to help the previous poster with a problem.
2015/01/17 00:36:40
bitman
jsg
I suspect Cakewalk's user base consists of a small number of people who actually read and write music, so they've probably abandoned support for those who do use the staff view.
 
Jerry
www.jerrygerber.com
 
Count me as one of the literate. 
 
 
 




2015/01/17 00:39:52
TomHelvey
scook
Are you asking me? I am not a Cakewalk employee. It was not my intention to hijack the thread. I was just trying to help the previous poster with a problem.



Nope. I know.
1. Was for the guy who actually hijacked the thread
2. Was the sed substitution for your typo
3. Was to get the thread back on topic
I should have split the response, just wanted to keep the thread from deteriorating. The notation editor is a pretty big deal for some of us here.
2015/01/17 00:44:06
scook
It won't. There has been at least one staff view thread after every release for some time. I don't know of a single user who does not want to see the staff view improved.
2015/01/17 00:50:27
noynekker
I use the staff view as it is, for me it works well enough, I tend to switch between staff and PRV views to get the most efficient midi editing I can . .  but staff view is really my base for composing and songwriting. I would love to see staff view improvements, enhancements and bug fixes . . . though I am not a "power staff view user" like Jerry Gerber (jsg) . . . I can certainly echo his sentiments as to why the staff view has been underdeveloped, and under appreciated as part of the Sonar product moving ahead.
 
No love, no attention paid, survey says - - - > not enough users use staff view . . . but certainly there must be a large enough amount of staffers to at least merit some tidbits of new baker programming, or have all the staff programmers moved on ?
2015/01/17 00:50:54
jsg
Kev999
Staff View is one of the most overlooked features of Sonar because people seem to think that you either use it OR you use Piano Roll View, not both. Really everybody should be using both, as the the two views each provide a different perspective. PRV is better for fine detailed editing, but SV is better for viewing the overall arrangement and seeing the bigger picture. If you have more than one screen then you can use them both together. Even as it stands, without any new improvements, SV is still very useful. I urge skeptics to try it.




Actually I use the event list for detailed editing, that and the context menu note properties in staff view and the controllers and tempo view.  I've never been able to see any advantage of the piano roll view.  But I expect CW to keep it up to date because it is an integral part of the program and many of their users like it.  Same with staff view, except while the PRV keeps getting updated and new features added, the staff view remains as is, they don't fix bugs and they keep "deferring it" to some future update in the future. 
 
A few posts up someone commented about how the code is so archaic that no one wants to touch it.  That sounds true, but the question is, how did they let it go on for so long, why wasn't CW incrementally improving, integrating and fixing the staff view all along? 
2015/01/17 00:54:56
jsg
scook
CadErik
 Also I still get midi "dropouts", press play and Sonar forgets to start and play many VSTis, one needs to stop playback and play again.


Dropped notes usually indicates too small a "Prepare Using nnn Millisecond Buffers" in Preferences > Audio > Playback and Recording. Try increasing the value to 500 or 750.




The person quoted above says MIDI dropouts, not audio dropouts. Your advice is for audio. For MIDI dropouts, go to Preferences-MIDI-Playback & Recording-Playback-Prepare using  xxxx millisecond buffers.   I set mine at 1000.  I never have dropouts. 
2015/01/17 01:01:02
scook
jsg
scook
CadErik
 Also I still get midi "dropouts", press play and Sonar forgets to start and play many VSTis, one needs to stop playback and play again.


Dropped notes usually indicates too small a "Prepare Using nnn Millisecond Buffers" in Preferences > Audio > Playback and Recording. Try increasing the value to 500 or 750.




The person quoted above says MIDI dropouts, not audio dropouts. Your advice is for audio. For MIDI dropouts, go to Preferences-MIDI-Playback & Recording-Playback-Prepare using  xxxx millisecond buffers.   I set mine at 1000.  I never have dropouts. 


Actually it is a typo the preferences path, your path is the correct one. There is no setting like that in the Audio preferences. Sorry for the confusion. I will correct my post.
2015/01/17 01:21:29
Jimbo 88
More Staff View stuff....
 
How hard would it be to make possible to transpose Chords?  Or make it easier to input Chords?
How hard is to allow staff view to display odd numbers of notes in a beat like septuplets?
 
I would think those two things would be very easy and make a lot of people happy.
 
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