I thought because they lacked experience and knowledge for implementing staff view, was the main reason. Not to say other things wouldn't effect it, but I thought they had the MIDI understanding. I thought they had said they had tried to get someone with that knowledge in before. 

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
 
And besides what Craig said, we don't simply transcribe user requests and implement them or just copy what other DAW's do. We're also do features that innovate and push the envelope to enhance productivity of the user base in ways people never thought of before. Mix-recall is definitely one of those features. 
The primary reason for Staff view stasis is resource balancing features that affect the widest user base and those that our dev resources can implement in the fastest time. Notation is a very specialized area of programming and most of us here are not very expert in that domain so its a longer process for us to add features to that area. And to clarify its not sufficient to just have people who can read and write music, just as most mix engineers wouldn't have a clue how to write a DAW even if they were expert in their field :) 
 

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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]


Agreed regarding your first point. Regarding the latter we're already thinking quite deeply about a more universal strategy. And I know Daniel well - I'm a Sibelius user myself and have been in touch with him over the years about interop issues :) Even offered to hire some of their dev's when they had the Avid layoff. They have the brightest minds in the notation space in his team and its still an immense challenge for them last I spoke to him...

 
From page 11.
 
 

jsg

Kamikaze
C) camp for me, B) would be nice.
 
Posting, because it looks cool
 
 
 

Wow! What is that machine and when was it made and used?  I've never seen it...

I hadn't seen your reply before, 1953 and funnily it was made in San Fran. Keaton Music Typewriter.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uctqHxzkNYI
 
 

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
I know Daniel well ... They have the brightest minds in the notation space in his team and its still an immense challenge for them last I spoke to him...

This really is a big challenge, both technically (i.e. software development) but also strategically.  Just as garage bands doing tracking and lots of special effects tend to pull the center of gravity of DAWs, engraving extremists tend to dominate the thinking in the notation space.  I don't think either market is well served by allowing such influence to dominate.
 
That is not to say there is anything invalid about bands wanting to do tracking and play with the latest effects, or that there is anything wrong with people who want to produce perfect scores that measure up to the best hand-engravings of centuries past.  It is just that that isn't the real world for a great many users, and that's where this strategic challenge comes in. 
 
A product cannot be all things to all people, so one has to choose one's point of attack wisely.  And the new kid on the block (StaffPad) has seriously shaken things up.  They probably don't aspire to be  the ultimate engraver's tool, as seems to be the goal for Finale, Sibelius and Spreadbury's new product.  But for $70, this is really a very creditable notation program, even in the very first release, not to mention that it's main innovation is to allow handwriting of scores.  Anybody following this area must be extremely impressed with how much capability is delivered in that product.
 
I continue to believe that at this stage of the game, it is not a practical (or smart) goal to try to build "Finale-level" notation into Sonar.  It is much wiser goal to position Sonar as the most interoperable DAW, seamlessly integrating with the best notation products.  In other words, Cakewalk cannot beat either Finale or StaffPad at what they do, but it can be the DAW of choice for the users of those products.
 
And that strategy would not be mutually exclusive with making continued improvements to scroll view, which is positioned for fast, easy, lightweight notation uses.

Kamikaze

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
 
And besides what Craig said, we don't simply transcribe user requests and implement them or just copy what other DAW's do. We're also do features that innovate and push the envelope to enhance productivity of the user base in ways people never thought of before. Mix-recall is definitely one of those features. 
The primary reason for Staff view stasis is resource balancing features that affect the widest user base and those that our dev resources can implement in the fastest time. Notation is a very specialized area of programming and most of us here are not very expert in that domain so its a longer process for us to add features to that area. And to clarify its not sufficient to just have people who can read and write music, just as most mix engineers wouldn't have a clue how to write a DAW even if they were expert in their field :) 
 

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sure - There's a big difference between fixing some very basic bugs in the existing staff view, and enhancing it to any degree.

"Dorchester Update" is here! No notation fix!!!!!

Just out of interest is it possible to select note icons in step record's pop window when using score view?

No surprise, any changes are going to require time, assuming changes are coming at all. I've been checking into other DAWS that have notation. If I migrate, I plan to go with one of the more basic ones, like Mixcraft or Reaper. Reaper is in process of implementing notation, but no telling if it will be better than Sonar, or even as good. Mixcraft's appears to be very basic; it only shows one instrument at a time. not helpful for symphonic composing...
 
The reason I'll be looking for a simpler DAW: getting tired of the constant changes that don't really change anything, except to get you to spend more money. And definitely I'll be looking for one without a monthly fee!

michael diemer
And definitely I'll be looking for one without a monthly fee!

Like SONAR PLATINUM when you pay up front?