Brett

jonogrant
 
Thanks for the reply! I didn't say it was unusable, 

I will. For me at least. 

There is (was?) a bug with lyrics that will destroy your track by adding duplicate notes and lyrics and it's not undoable.
 
Craig, you'll forgive me if I'm a little cynical. This bug was introduced in Sonar 5 ten years ago. I, and others documented it thoroughly. 
 
Brett

All I ask is that people (not you specifically) look at what's happened in the last 19 months since Cakewalk was acquired (which includes a fix for the bug you mentioned), stop stating as fact speculation about the future based on a past model of operation that no longer exists, and stop dissing current Cakewalk employees for problems wrought by a different regime - because the current Cakewalk employees are working very hard on SONAR fixes. I think the fix lists from X3 to SONAR 2015, and the fix lists in the first five monthly releases, speak for themselves and progress will continue every month from here on out unless Cakewalk stops making software, the sun goes nova, or there's contact with an alien super-race of DAW programmers. Then we'll just hire them and get all the fixes done in a week.
 
 

Well put Craig.
 

As I mentioned in the other notation thread, a few weeks ago I got an email from Cakewalk asking me to send them images of how dotted, tied and nested triplets look in Sibelius.   I honored the request (obviously!) so let's hope that the developers are going to finally fix these long-standing issues. 
 
I also sent them a file showing the proper place for a dot next to a note--it should never been on a  staff line, but always slightly above it.  Perhaps this too will be repaired. 
 
Jerry
http://www.jerrygerber.com
 

Thanks jerry. I hope your persistence and determination pays off. Personally I think it will.

Anderton
 
 
 
And FWIW, the last time this was brought I'm pretty sure someone from Cakewalk said it was not a priority for the next update.

If not next time, WHEN!????

jsg
As I mentioned in the other notation thread, a few weeks ago I got an email from Cakewalk asking me to send them images of how dotted, tied and nested triplets look in Sibelius.   I honored the request (obviously!) so let's hope that the developers are going to finally fix these long-standing issues. 
 
I also sent them a file showing the proper place for a dot next to a note--it should never been on a  staff line, but always slightly above it.  Perhaps this too will be repaired. 
 
Jerry
http://www.jerrygerber.com
 

1. How about when you right click the c note on the treble staff or the e note on the bass staff and the note properties window doesn't pop up? Instead you get the process menu.
2. How about when you try to copy and paste something it pastes it a measure or further back from where you're telling it you want it?
3. How about when you're trying to add 32nd notes one after the other and they pop forward to align with the preceding note, so you have to keep moving them back to the right position.
4. How about being able to write a second or third verse below the 1st line of lyrics?
 
These are just a few off the top of my head.
 
 

annifarkle

jsg
As I mentioned in the other notation thread, a few weeks ago I got an email from Cakewalk asking me to send them images of how dotted, tied and nested triplets look in Sibelius.   I honored the request (obviously!) so let's hope that the developers are going to finally fix these long-standing issues. 
 
I also sent them a file showing the proper place for a dot next to a note--it should never been on a  staff line, but always slightly above it.  Perhaps this too will be repaired. 
 
Jerry
http://www.jerrygerber.com
 

1. How about when you right click the c note on the treble staff or the e note on the bass staff and the note properties window doesn't pop up? Instead you get the process menu.
2. How about when you try to copy and paste something it pastes it a measure or further back from where you're telling it you want it?
3. How about when you're trying to add 32nd notes one after the other and they pop forward to align with the preceding note, so you have to keep moving them back to the right position.
4. How about being able to write a second or third verse below the 1st line of lyrics?
 
These are just a few off the top of my head.
 
 

Hi Ann - I completely agree. But it seems that Cakewalk prefer that individual Feature Requests or Problem Reports be issued for each "issue" or aspect. In your list above, I see 1-3 as being Bugs and 4 as a "feature request". If you submit them I'll definitely support them as no doubt will others anxious to see the staff view get some fixes. I am sure Cake will get to them right after they release Bass Replacer/Recall Mach 2 (TM).
 

annifarkle

jsg
As I mentioned in the other notation thread, a few weeks ago I got an email from Cakewalk asking me to send them images of how dotted, tied and nested triplets look in Sibelius.   I honored the request (obviously!) so let's hope that the developers are going to finally fix these long-standing issues. 
 
I also sent them a file showing the proper place for a dot next to a note--it should never been on a  staff line, but always slightly above it.  Perhaps this too will be repaired. 
 
Jerry
http://www.jerrygerber.com
 

1. How about when you right click the c note on the treble staff or the e note on the bass staff and the note properties window doesn't pop up? Instead you get the process menu.
2. How about when you try to copy and paste something it pastes it a measure or further back from where you're telling it you want it?
3. How about when you're trying to add 32nd notes one after the other and they pop forward to align with the preceding note, so you have to keep moving them back to the right position.
4. How about being able to write a second or third verse below the 1st line of lyrics?
 
These are just a few off the top of my head.
 
 

1.  If you click just to the left or right of the note when the note is on a lower ledger line you can get to the properties.  If that doesn't work you can always use event inspector.  Or, if you drag the note whose properties you need down a few ledger lines and drag it back that seems to work too.
 
2.  I haven't seen that issue.  Are you using Sonar Platinum?
 
3.  I have no issue with 32nds notes.  Did you check your note resolution display in the staff view and make sure it's on the highest resolution?
 
4.  I don't use Sonar for lyrics, can't help there.
 
JG
http://www.jerrygerber.com

Well, nothing has been from Roland for awhile and Roland is history, most new effect plugins and ProChannel modules are from third party developers but still Cakewalk has done nothing for the staff development! Currently, Sonar has bugs that need to be addressed but they have made it overly complicated with new features and not taken care of things that don't work correctly! No wonder staff notation is on the backburner!

To those who are satisfied with rewire:  have you been able to rewire sibelius 8 with SPLAT?