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2014/10/12 15:31:37
Anderton
Beepster
I thought DIM Solo was automatically enabled when comping.

 
I have to enable it manually. Not sure if there's a preference or something?
 
I've posted a request thread months ago to get a fader option for DIM solo instead of of the current three radio button options

 
I'd like that too.
2014/10/12 15:42:00
Beepster
hmm... thanks. This will require some kerfutzing and exploration. Since I've installed X3 DIM Solo has engaged as soon as I started comping. If there is a setting to prevent that then I'll be a happy Beep. More control over the DIM Solo level would certainly be awesome though. Maybe a default bus fader that can be shown/hidden like the Metronome or Preview busses. Seems logical now that the new comping method relies so much on soloing.
 
Cheers.
2014/10/12 21:35:39
brconflict
I don't get to use Speedcomping much because of the way we record vocals here. Once the vocalists caught wind of how we can record them, comping is done during tracking manually and their voices are saved for the next song. 
 
I am curious, though, for anyone who uses Speedcomping, have you had any luck comping guitar solos without splicing artifacts? I've not managed to prevent those in Speed comping. Thanks!
2014/10/12 21:58:04
Paul P
joden
 I am like you in that I prefer to do "full" one go recordings. I even try to do the keys parts AND vocals at the same time, as it is how I do it live, so why not when recording.



Being new to X3 I just watched the comping video in caketv.  Looks very powerful and well done.
I'm impressed.
 
But I kept asking myself, is this how songs are done now ?  Like each word or phrase can be from a separate take ?
I can't help but think that this is getting a bit far from performance, immediacy, risk, and all that.
 
Glad to see some people still create songs by singing them !
 
2014/10/12 22:35:38
Anderton
Unfortunately, it is the way a lot of songs are done now...I could drop some names of Very Famous Singers who almost do it syllable by syllable. I agree that the more you can leave intact, the more the vocal can tell a "story." However, what I like best about comping is that you can take the process however far you want. I'll often drop in a word that had a more even vibrato, better expressiveness, better phrasing, etc. That way the phrase maintains its overall integrity, but has that little extra something. 
2014/10/12 22:46:30
brconflict
Tracking vocals, especially, line by line works very well for us. However, we've not been prone to have the singer repeat the whole song take after take. Many times the vocalist (especially Metal) will wear himself out prematurely by going take by take to comp later. So, what we do is track line by line, alternating between two separate tracks so that the previous line can be heard. I wish we could do this on the same track but different Lane, but that simply never worked. 
 
Anyway, we comp while tracking. It's quite easy if the decision-makers are on-hand. Glad I don't deal with 'suits'. 
2014/10/12 22:57:33
soens
"Unfortunately, it is the way a lot of songs are done now..."
 
Especially by those of us who are not "professionals" or know what we're doing or driven by a Nazi coach or have all day/night to "get it right"... and so on.
2014/10/12 23:36:37
kennywtelejazz
Hi sharke,
what is this blasphemy ,  are you no longer a 75 recording takes to get it right guitar player ?   
(you know I'm kidding with you …) 
thats cool man , I'm glad your diging the comping feature …. it's always nice to learn a new thing...
myself personaly , I'm trying to keep an open mind on the comping system …..
so far it is not something I use currently …I have my own system that works for me ….
but who knows …time may tell in the future ...
 
Kenny
2014/10/13 02:01:50
FastBikerBoy
brconflict
I don't get to use Speedcomping much because of the way we record vocals here. Once the vocalists caught wind of how we can record them, comping is done during tracking manually and their voices are saved for the next song. 
 
I am curious, though, for anyone who uses Speedcomping, have you had any luck comping guitar solos without splicing artifacts? I've not managed to prevent those in Speed comping. Thanks!




Both the crossfade and exact split points can be click dragged at the time. However I find "manual comping" more suitable to guitar solos or any material where there are no obvious breaks in the material like there is in vocal phrases.
 
Although "manual comping" is a bit of a misnomer because I find that as quick, if not quicker, than "speed comping" on that sort of material. It's horses for courses.
 
2014/10/13 04:38:54
Sanderxpander
Brconflict, if the record mode is set to comping, you will hear the previous take as long as you haven't actually hit "record". I usually press play a bit in advance for a good lead in and then hit R a second or so before the actual line for sort of a punch in. I'm pretty sure you could also use sound on sound mode if you go line by line, and you can simply create two lanes in the same track to work with.

Just giving options, if you're happy with your workflow ignore me please :)
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