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2014/10/07 19:36:38
Anderton
Fadengo

2. I bought Cubase but it didn't have the Smart Grid (but you can control the volume of the notes right inside the In-Place midi editing track! I wish Sonar could do that)



Actually you can, but you need to use the Edit tool. Fortunately each tool has a dedicated Function key, you can call it up with F8. Position the cursor over the note until you see what looks like a pencil with some velocity lines, then click and drag up or down to adjust velocity. The velocity line changes, and so does the note's color, which is helpful.
2014/10/07 19:39:47
Anderton
Oh, and you CAN assign show/hide velocity to a keyboard shortcut. Look under the track view shortcuts, scroll down to MIDI | Show Velocity, and choose your key to assign to it.
 
2014/10/07 22:43:50
Fadengo
Anderton,

Alright I asigned F to Show/Hide Velocity! Thank you.

But with the Edit tool, it always take me 15-20 seconds to find out the little "pencil with velocity lines"... It's quite tricky isn't it? Ow too bad they didn't put little handlers (stems)...

 
2014/10/07 23:17:28
Anderton
Fadengo
But with the Edit tool, it always take me 15-20 seconds to find out the little "pencil with velocity lines"... It's quite tricky isn't it? Ow too bad they didn't put little handlers (stems)...



 
If you zoom in on the notes to the same resolution/height as your video, I think you'll find it much easier. And don't forget that if multiple notes are selected, you can change all of them at once with this technique.
2014/10/07 23:21:56
Fadengo
Anderton,

Ok, I'll Zoom-in to find it.
(About multiple notes) Nice! But I like having different velocity for each note to give some human feel.
All these cold virtual instruments nowdays definitely need some warmth.
 
Again, thank you Anderton (and Scook)  for your (great) support!
2014/10/07 23:27:06
Anderton
Fadengo
Ok, I'll Zoom-in to find it.

 
Click on the note numbers or keyboard to the left, and drag up or down to change resolution.

(About multiple notes) Nice! But I like having different velocity for each note to give some human feel.
All these cold virtual instruments nowdays definitely need some warmth.

 
It doesn't set them to the same value, it changes their existing values up or down. So if you have a soft note and a loud note selected and increase velocity for one, they will both get louder proportionately, not change to the same value.
 
Also check out the Velocity MIDI plug-in. You'll have a blast.
 
2014/10/07 23:32:26
Fadengo
Anderton
It doesn't set them to the same value, it changes their existing values up or down. So if you have a soft note and a loud note selected and increase velocity for one, they will both get louder proportionately, not change to the same value.

Oh okay okay I get it. It's like a group velocity change keeping the proportionalities.
 
Anderton
Also check out the Velocity MIDI plug-in. You'll have a blast.

Definitely will!! I already had a blast with the Midi Quantize Plugin (especially the Humanizer slider)...
It's the kind of tool I missed from Cubase!

Now you can quote me to the Cakewalk managers:

Anderton made me feel like home with SonarX3.

Seriously. Operating with SonarX3 starts to feel good now.



2014/10/08 00:28:49
Anderton
Cool! I got the vibe from what you wrote, what you asked, your starting a separate thread to avoid confusion, and including videos to get your point across that you're serious about this. I also get the sense you're the kind of person who, the more you get into Sonar, the more you're going to dig it and the more creative you'll be with it. Sonar has all kinds of little surprises as you get further into it.
 
I also feel a certain kinship because I bounced back and forth between Acid and Cubase back in the day, because at that time Acid couldn't do serious MIDI or hard disk recording, but Cubase didn't really do looping. When Sonar came along with MIDI, hard disk recording, and the ability to not only work with but create/edit Acidized loops, I checked it out and was hooked. 
 
If you want a hint of some of the really out there stuff you can do with Sonar, check out my Tip of the Day thread that ran during August (but I cheated and added a few more tips). And by the way, it's not just scook and me, we just happened to be here at the right time. This forum is loaded with helpful people who really know their way around Sonar. This community isn't listed as a feature on a spec sheet, but it's the icing on the...uh...cake.
2014/10/11 23:52:51
Fadengo
Hello Anderton,

Oh so you're an Acid/Cubase "alumni" aswell, that explains all!
Again thank you for all this help because it's helping me getting my "basics" back.

On my side, Acid was really intuitive, precise and fast to "Zoom-in, paint notes, adjust volume, Zoom out", and to "Zoom-in, cut a waveform in a pixel-perfect manner, zoom-out" gestures.

Just like Tom Cruise in Minority Report, that fast, and it was part of my creative process, that I'm trying to get back on Sonar X3 now that it has In-Line midi editing and the Smart Grid (I believe only Acid and Sonar has it).

I've read some Tips of the Day you've wrote, and I've bookmarked some of them indeed for later use, it's incredibile this amount of features "behind the wheel" you helped users (re)discover indeed!

Cakewalk's forum should definitely listed as a feature ^^.
BTW I wonder why they didn't upgraded their forum to Discourse (http://www.discourse.org/)... But I guess that's again another off-topic subject.
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