I know this has been talked about a lot but why is there still no Vari speed function in Sonar??  It is an important tool in our sonic arsenal and an important piece of Sonic Arts history.  If a crap program like Reaper (I don't like the interface) can implement it and its available in Logic and I think Cubase why not Sonar??  I'm sick of having to export into Reaper to do authentic tape speed effects.  It would be nice if they could implement into the new tape sim.  Just saying!!
 
Ben

BenMMusTech
I know this has been talked about a lot but why is there still no Vari speed function in Sonar??  It is an important tool in our sonic arsenal and an important piece of Sonic Arts history.  If a crap program like Reaper (I don't like the interface) can implement it and its available in Logic and I think Cubase why not Sonar??  I'm sick of having to export into Reaper to do authentic tape speed effects.  It would be nice if they could implement into the new tape sim.  Just saying!!
 
Ben

Authentic tape speed effects from a digital audio workstation. Now that is funny. That reminds me of a a label on a sweater which read "Genuine Virgin Acrylic"!   

Ah my old mate John, now I'm going to be polite, well as much as I can be!  It's a genuine question about a technique that was pioneered first using phonograph records and then refined via tape.  So its a tape speed effect.  Does it have a digital name??  I don't think so, but you might know.  What I don't understand is why your are poo-pooing an idea that is a very important part of a producers arsenal of tricks?  It has been used on countless popular music records and in various Sonic Arts experiments?
 
Ben

BenMMusTech
Ah my old mate John, now I'm going to be polite, well as much as I can be!  It's a genuine question about a technique that was pioneered first using phonograph records and then refined via tape.  So its a tape speed effect.  Does it have a digital name??  I don't think so, but you might know.  What I don't understand is why your are poo-pooing an idea that is a very important part of a producers arsenal of tricks?  It has been used on countless popular music records and in various Sonic Arts experiments?
 
Ben

You read too much in my post. It just strikes me as funny that this is thought to be authentic when the word authentic has a different meaning. Virtual or simulated is more appropriate. Whether Sonar ever offers it or not I hope they don't call it authentic. 

I, too, have been asking for vari-speed in Sonar for a LONG time! It's really kind of ridiculous that we don't have it already, considering just about every other DAW has had it forever!

I had a joke here. But decided against it. Mostly because I do understand the FX wanted.

I have a part of a verse if a song I did long ago that the original idea for it was to keep speeding up, as a tape machine would do if just allowed to go!

Never knew that Rea*** could do it.thanks for that info.

This reminds me of a presentation I did about 12 years ago - it was all about digital music recording and production. (Using Sonar the first I believe.) I ended it with a line about how the next step was to figure out how to make digital sound like analog!
 
Brian
Edit: Not saying varispeed wouldn't be useful - John's comments reminded me of this experience!

so... how many hands for synthetic vari-speed?

mixmkr
so... how many hands for synthetic vari-speed?

Only if it's call "Authentic Varispeed!"

John

BenMMusTech
Ah my old mate John, now I'm going to be polite, well as much as I can be!  It's a genuine question about a technique that was pioneered first using phonograph records and then refined via tape.  So its a tape speed effect.  Does it have a digital name??  I don't think so, but you might know.  What I don't understand is why your are poo-pooing an idea that is a very important part of a producers arsenal of tricks?  It has been used on countless popular music records and in various Sonic Arts experiments?
 
Ben

You read too much in my post. It just strikes me as funny that this is thought to be authentic when the word authentic has a different meaning. Virtual or simulated is more appropriate. Whether Sonar ever offers it or not I hope they don't call it authentic. 

Sorry John I was being too sensitive (previous interactions, lets put them behind us we both have our specialties and life is too short) I suppose I was thinking of when calling it authentic of Reel ADT by Waves and even that is a misnomer.
 
Yep Grem Reaper does have Vari Speed and it works really well, I've used it to help me hit notes that I cant hit and I've used as "tape" effect and sped up the end of a song.  So it works.
 
Maybe we should start a digital petition, as I think enough of us want this and it should now be a priority for Cakewalk, everything else in Sonar seems to be rock solid, the emulation stuff is good it certainly adds flavour and colour.  So a response from Cakewalk would be good!! 
 
Ben