• SONAR
  • Vari Speed-Why Not? (p.6)
2014/04/05 11:51:57
rodreb
Bottom line, to me, anyway..... Sonar should have a simple, straight-forward vari-speed function (Like most other DAWs), for better or for worse (Audio-wise) and let people make of it what they will.
Power to the people!!! Ha ha!
Seems like a reasonable request and much better than a bunch of time consuming workarounds. Am I wrong?   
2014/04/05 12:11:56
djoni
I would also like a stop/start tape effect. Currently I export and do it in Reaper and import it back into Sonar.
Would be nice to be able to do it inside Sonar.
 
2014/04/05 12:17:19
scook
Tapestop in the archives (old-tbt-vstplugins folder) of http://www.tinbrooketales.com/ is one of the few 32bit plug-ins I still install.
2014/04/05 12:56:05
DW_Mike
Add me to the list that would like to see this added at some point too.
 
Mike
2014/04/05 12:57:21
DW_Mike
Skook.
Me too. Awesome lil plug-in.
 
Mike 
2014/04/05 13:01:18
skinnybones lampshade
Thank you, scook and Craig Anderton, for your very helpful replies!

I'd still like to have vari-speed for its ease of use:

1) Turn pitch wheel all the way to the left (one octave)
2) Sing with the very slow and low tracks while recording
3) Turn wheel back to centre and play back

Done :)
2014/04/05 14:48:48
Anderton
rodreb
Bottom line, to me, anyway..... Sonar should have a simple, straight-forward vari-speed function (Like most other DAWs), for better or for worse (Audio-wise) and let people make of it what they will.
Power to the people!!! Ha ha!
Seems like a reasonable request and much better than a bunch of time consuming workarounds. Am I wrong?  



Depends on how you define "reasonable." I don't know much about coding, but I suspect that to add a "simple, straightforward vari-speed function" to Sonar would require ripping the audio engine apart and putting it back together again using a completely different approach. It probably wouldn't be as difficult if all you wanted to do was change pitch and accept that the duration will get longer or shorter (as with tape), but still, I question how many people would consider this such an important feature that they'd be willing to give up all the other cool things that could be done with an equal amount of development work - especially because there are workarounds that so far, have addressed almost all of the vari-speed needs people have brought up.
 
Some of the workarounds, like pitch-up/pitch down voices, aren't even particularly time-consuming - basically, the time required to create a premix. I'd rather spend a few extra minutes on a workaround during the rare times when I need vari-speed than hang up Sonar's development team for several months...maybe Noel could chime in on how easy or difficult this would be. If they could do standard tape vari-speed in a few days, sure, go for it! Otherwise, it's not high on my personal list of priorities.
2014/04/05 15:38:19
soens
I don't know if I'd use such a thing as this but I'm having a blast with the audio editing tools already here. I can cut-n-paste-n-slip-n-stretch-n-transpose-n-boost-n-bounce my way to playing guitar like I never could without it.
 
Sure it's a lot of work, but not as much as spending 10 years trying to learn how to play a certain way.
 
Just don't ever ask me to play live what you hear!
2014/04/05 15:50:45
Jay Tee 4303
Might as well design a subroutine to reach out and grab yer ***** when trying to stretch to a high note...
 
 
Jus kiddin, I want Vari-speed too!
2014/04/05 16:04:11
rodreb
Craig, Personally, when I think of vari-speed, all I'm thinking of is "just like tape". That's what I've grown up with so, that's all I really thought of. Anything else would just be extra, to me. As you said, I have no idea how much coding it would take, either. It does seem that, since people are willing to talk about it as much as they are in this thread, it might be worth thinking about. Of course, it's not a deal breaker and, I love X3 but, it would be nice to have, IMHO.
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