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  • [Answered] Sonar X3 Producer Error using Sony Vegas Pro 13
2014/10/01 19:41:40
56speedster@cox.net
Hello;  I am receiving a Sonar error when sending  a wave file from Sony Vegas Pro using the "Open in audio Edit in audio editor" command from Vegas.  
The Error comes up after Sonar opens.  The error is as follows. "Could not open file. The file may be damaged or incompatible with this version of Sonar.  You may attempt to recover this file in "safe" mode holding down the Shift key while opening it. "
I have done the latest updates with Sonar X3 and Vegas pro 13 but still no luck.   Any help is greatly appreciated
Thanks
 
2014/10/01 19:45:48
scook
SONAR is not an audio editor. Audio editors like SoundForge, Wavosaur and WaveShop take an audio file as a command line argument, SONAR does not.
2014/10/01 22:48:00
Larry Jones
Why do you want to do this? If it's just to edit an audio track, look into the programs mentioned by scook in his reply. Or are you planning to use Sonar to create music for your video?
2014/10/02 05:52:15
StarTekh
(SONAR is not an audio editor)  is a mouth-full ! You would think a pro program would have this covered ! Voyetra did ! 50.00 prgm forget x4 if it cant edit !
2014/10/02 14:13:21
Anderton
StarTekh
(SONAR is not an audio editor)  is a mouth-full ! You would think a pro program would have this covered ! Voyetra did ! 50.00 prgm forget x4 if it cant edit !



Of course Sonar can EDIT audio, and very well. However, as a program category, Sonar is considered a DAW (digital audio workstation) as opposed to a standard digital audio editor like Sound Forge or Wavelab. As scook said, these programs take an audio file as a command line argument.
2014/10/02 20:26:37
56speedster@cox.net
Hi Everyone:  Thanks for all the replies.  I have used Sonar since Sonar 6 and was hoping that X3 would be suitable for adding audio such as music and editing audio generated from the original video as needed.   I will be looking into the mentioned programs above to see if it would be a better option, sounds like it would be.  Thanks again for your input everyone.
2014/10/02 20:32:07
scook
You can do all that, it just cannot be done by calling SONAR from within Vegas. SONAR needs to import the video into a project. I believe you will find working the audio inside SONAR easier than calling an audio editor from inside Vegas.
2014/10/02 22:38:44
Anderton
56speedster@cox.net
Hi Everyone:  Thanks for all the replies.  I have used Sonar since Sonar 6 and was hoping that X3 would be suitable for adding audio such as music and editing audio generated from the original video as needed. 



I do that all the time. My general rule is if I need to edit audio to video, I use Sonar. If I need to edit video to audio, I use Vegas.
 
I think you're missing a fundamental point, which is calling up the editor is simply a convenience feature. Sony makes both Vegas and Sound Forge, so of course they want to accommodate users who decide to "stay in the family." Adobe has similar "hooks" for using Audition with Premiere. However, the question you need to ask is what program will be able to edit audio as needed for video. Sonar can load a video, and not only can you edit that audio, Sonar has tempo stretching options that make it much easier to define and reach hit points as well as the ability to lock events to SMPTE time or follow bars, beats, and measures. It has everything you need unless you need audio restoration tools, like de-cracklers and noise reduction. 
2014/10/03 03:46:31
Larry Jones
56speedster@cox.net
Hi Everyone:  Thanks for all the replies.  I have used Sonar since Sonar 6 and was hoping that X3 would be suitable for adding audio such as music and editing audio generated from the original video as needed.   I will be looking into the mentioned programs above to see if it would be a better option, sounds like it would be.  Thanks again for your input everyone.


I think Sonar might be the right application for what you want to do. Here's what I do when I'm adding audio to a video:
  • I put the video up in Vegas.
  • If I have multiple audio tracks I sync them, usually manually.If I just have the camera audio, all the better.
  • If the footage is to be cut, I cut it.
  • I make a rough one-camera AVI and save it. (X3 can handle more video formats than earlier versions, but I play it safe with a generic Windows AVI. At this stage all I want is a reference picture to look at.)
  • Then I open Sonar and File|Import|Video.
  • Once imported, I play the video in Sonar, do my music and FX sweetening, then export the audio tracks individually.
  • Back in Vegas I import the audio tracks and start working on my final version of the movie.
This works great for adding audio. Of course, if all you're doing is editing one or two tracks of camera sound, Sonar would do that, but it's overkill. Actually, Vegas began life as an audio editor. You could probably do all the basic editing you need to do right there.
 
Good luck!
2014/10/03 17:38:49
56speedster@cox.net
Hi Anderton and Larry,  I am learning a lot from you guys.  My goal is to add music etc. to the video imported from a rendered file from Vegas using mostly VST's within Sonar as well as any editing to the Vegas video sound track as needed.  I will give your guidelines a go, it sounds like this fits the bill for my needs.  Thanks again guys.
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