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  • Sonar 8.5 Producer: Repair .cwp Projects (p.2)
2018/03/19 13:36:19
Annabelle
When I open the same .cwp file in "Safe Mode", Sonar acts like the project is empty, when in fact there should be tracks in there. Maybe one of you folks has a newer version of Sonar, and maybe you could try and see if the project opens in there. Is there a way to upload attachments? Maybe I could share it on the forum.
2018/03/19 13:57:43
chuckebaby
have you in the past, tried installing a demo of Sonar Platinum ? or any of the X series demos ?
2018/03/19 16:39:33
azslow3
I know you have no reason to trust what I have written you in PM...
 
But if that is the same CWP you have uploaded the last time, it is not CWP. It has parts from audio files and parts from something else. I have scanned it in HEX form manually. Not only it has no SONAR mark at the beginning, it has no reference to any audio files nor track/clip names (they appear as text in normal CWP and so easy to notice).
2018/03/19 23:54:37
wetdentist
i have long wished there were a .cwb fixing utility, one that would open all elements of the project except the corrupted ones.  that'd be pretty cool.
2018/03/20 00:07:59
Annabelle
chuckebaby
have you in the past, tried installing a demo of Sonar Platinum ? or any of the X series demos ?


chuckebaby
have you in the past, tried installing a demo of Sonar Platinum ? or any of the X series demos ?



I would do that. However, none of the newer versions have accessibility for screenreaders like JAWS.
2018/03/20 01:13:36
Annabelle
wetdentist
i have long wished there were a .cwb fixing utility, one that would open all elements of the project except the corrupted ones.  that'd be pretty cool.


I bet if I ever master the C++ Programming language, I might be able to make one! Is C++ what Sonar is mostly made of?
2018/03/20 01:16:16
Annabelle
azslow3
I know you have no reason to trust what I have written you in PM...
 
But if that is the same CWP you have uploaded the last time, it is not CWP. It has parts from audio files and parts from something else. I have scanned it in HEX form manually. Not only it has no SONAR mark at the beginning, it has no reference to any audio files nor track/clip names (they appear as text in normal CWP and so easy to notice).


Out of curiosity, what does the "Sonar Mark" look like? Is it a code of letters and numbers?
2018/03/20 08:36:00
mettelus
Annabelle
azslow3
I know you have no reason to trust what I have written you in PM...
 
But if that is the same CWP you have uploaded the last time, it is not CWP. It has parts from audio files and parts from something else. I have scanned it in HEX form manually. Not only it has no SONAR mark at the beginning, it has no reference to any audio files nor track/clip names (they appear as text in normal CWP and so easy to notice).


Out of curiosity, what does the "Sonar Mark" look like? Is it a code of letters and numbers?




Hi Annabelle. What Alexey is referring to is the "file header." At the beginning of a data file is the description of contents, etc. so that a program knows what it is looking for and how to extract and use it. If you open a known good CWP file in NotePad or MS Word (Notepad may not open larger files), you will see a lot of gobbledygook, but some of it will be in plain English. Very early on (in the first few lines of the file) you should see the program name (e.g., "SONAR") followed shortly by the version number (e.g., "21.12.00.36") it was saved in. There is a lot more to the header itself, but I believe that is the "SONAR Mark" Alexey is referring to specifically. Since Alexey took the time to look at the file, you are not going to get a better result anywhere else unfortunately.
 
Without recoverable files to work with, it may be best to simply recreate the project from scratch. If any wav files will open and play, they can be imported; but if those headers are also damaged, they may be in the same boat as the cwp file itself.
 
And thank you Alexey for taking the time to look at the CWP file. The extra effort you put into things here is very much appreciated!
2018/03/20 10:15:28
azslow3
As Michael has mentioned, there are several important readable marks in correct CWP file.
"Cakewalk_SONAR" ("Cakewalk SONAR", without underscore, in early versions) is very close to the beginning.
 
I have checked the whole file. In case important sections are still in tact, I can restore manually. And I have not found any spells there is something from real CWP. CWP has the list of used audio files, started with "fref". Not there. CWP has the list of tracks with information about clips. Not there.
 
Offtopic. I recommend listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgYoFaRH114&t=5s for another way to open CWP files. Gerard makes videos, but you will recognize he does that with NVDA. I am advancing slowly, so my accessible controller framework and Sibiac are not yet moved from Sonar to the Reaper world. But in case you can benefit from accessible OSC with RME TotalMix, soon for Behrigner Digital Mixers as well, please let me know or check the link in my signature.
 
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