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2018/03/17 23:17:17
vdvorn
Blogospherianman

Clear as mud? 😄 I hope I explained it better. I did test it on my computer using the same factory trumpet section for the test.

I start to feel myself stupid... :)
 
I open Kontakt Synth as a Simple Instrument track to make less the number of tracks, so I have only one midi track.
What is midi track volume slider? Is it a one from the Console? If so, it has only db marks. Sorry, but I have no idea how to get to the Offset modus. Pressing O in Console view has got all my volumes to 0 and I can not undo it... :)
 
I will probably restore the minus 6 db level by default in Kontakt, if I will be successful in solving this volume problem. I just can not understand - why is it so complex - envelopes, Consol Slider, volume and master volume in Kontakt. I really would be happy to have only ONE volume for the instrument, which would remain on exactly the same level I put it the last time...
 
PS I have pressed O one more time, and the volumes gets back to their values. So, I have 0 db for the Trumpet track. Is it 101?
 
I have also understood what did you mean under the midi track slider. Is it a blue one, which I can move in the automation line? But it looks to work similar to the Console one...
 
Wow! I have put my track controlls to All, and now I understand, what did you write.
So, I move the slider in the midi track, but the main volume slider in Kontakt DOES NOT move. It looks like the Offset mode is OK.
If not, double check all the stuff I just said, OR make sure you don't have other siurce tracks with different volumes pointing to that instance of Kontakt by mistake.
I have the same story in both of my Kontakt version (I plan to delete one later), so it looks like there are no other tracks with different volumes.
 
I will try to do everything one more time...
 
PPS It looks like there is no correlation between the midi track volume rate and the master volume rate in Kontakt. I tried to move the slider in the Kontakt track that is working normal and the slider in Kontakt also does not move...
2018/03/18 00:36:14
vdvorn
I can not understand anything! I have just posted my answer, made some editions and finally it has disappeared! It already happened sometimes on this forum and I have no idea what could be the reason...
 
So, I will try to explain again. I have checked the volume slider in the midi track and when I move it the slider of the master volume of the instrument in Kontakt DOES NOT move. I also proved the offset mode and it shows 0 db (I don't know how to get to 101.
 
The wrong input from the other track seems also unlikely, since I have 2 versions of Kontakt recently (I plan to delete one later) and the Trumpet section seems to be unstable in both of them...
 
 
2018/03/18 00:52:43
michael diemer
vdvorn
I just checked, that the problem exist on both of my versions of Kontak (usual and portable).
 
As for changing the volume controller to 100 I did not find the advanced tab, where I can do it...


There are two tabs on the right of the synth. One says Basic, the other Advanced. I have had this exact problem, and setting the volume to 7 (you just select it out of a drop-down list) solves it . Study the synth's interface! It is there! Also, save the synth before closing the project.
If you are unfamiliar with the Kontakt Player, by all means look around, check out every icon and symbol so you know how to do things. In this way you will learn what you need to know (along with help from this great place, of course).
2018/03/18 01:12:55
vdvorn
michael diemer
There are two tabs on the right of the synth. One says Basic, the other Advanced. I have had this exact problem, and setting the volume to 7 (you just select it out of a drop-down list) solves it . Study the synth's interface! It is there! Also, save the synth before closing the project.
If you are unfamiliar with the Kontakt Player, by all means look around, check out every icon and symbol so you know how to do things. In this way you will learn what you need to know (along with help from this great place, of course).




https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPsfawCk7HUcCXJ_g99Yvk91ciu8BSKmgXltyRk
Could you please tell me where are Basic and Advanced tabs?
2018/03/18 01:14:20
vdvorn
For some reasons, sometimes I can not send a message in the normal way. I press Submit Post and everything disappears...
 
michael diemer
There are two tabs on the right of the synth. One says Basic, the other Advanced.


 
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPsfawCk7HUcCXJ_g99Yvk91ciu8BSKmgXltyRk
 
Could you please tell me where are Basic and Advanced tabs on my screenshot?
2018/03/18 03:26:32
Kamikaze
Fumbled through it in Kontact Player, I don't know how different they are, but may help.
Opens 'Instrument Settings' Orange
Select 'Controller' Red
The click 'Accept standard controllers fr Volume and Pan' Green
 
As soon as I did that, the Volume fader in Kontact started moving Yellow

 
What would control 'Gain Fader in Kontact Blue?
2018/03/18 03:40:39
vdvorn
Kamikaze
Fumbled through it in Kontact Player, I don't know how different they are, but may help.
Opens 'Instrument Settings' Orange
Select 'Controller' Red
The click 'Accept standard controllers fr Volume and Pan' Green
 
As soon as I did that, the Volume fader in Kontact started moving Yellow
 
 
What would control 'Gain Fader in Kontact Blue?




Thank you for the help, but I have this option already checked, but the fader does not move. It doesn't move also when I move the volume of the midi Kontakt tracks, which are working without that problem.
 
How did you get this Gain faders? I can not find it in Options...
2018/03/18 03:47:47
Blogospherianman
Don't feel stupid. Trust me, we've all been there. It's all a learning experience and you'll continue to build on each step as you go. The reason you're not seeing the same thing is because when you inserted Kontakt, you inserted as a 'Simple Instrument Track'. That way will only show the synth audio track. ( you can right click the synth audio track and click Split Instrument track to see the midi track and synth audio track separately, BUT I don't recommend this because the CC7 will NOT be assigned to volume. And Yes you can assign it by right clicking the volume slider in Kontakt and then sliding the un-hidden midi track volume slider, BUT, doing so will result in the CC7 value of 127 becoming +12db... Not ideal.

Best thing to do is load a new instance of Kontakt and when it asks 'Insert soft synth options', click Midi source, Synth track folder and First synth audio output. This will then create a folder in the Track View that contains the Synth audio track AND the Midi source track and will Automatically assign CC7 to volume with 127 = -6db.
(If it doesn't ask about soft synth options you can change those in the Synth browser next to the +{insert synth} and X{delete synth} there's an icon for 'Insert Synth options' ... it says that when you hover over)

Then try adjusting the Volume on the Midi source track and watch the Kontakt volume slider move.

Let me know how these steps go for you.

ps. before you post, it's a good idea to 'select all' and copy the post, that way if it doesn't post you can paste it back and try again. 😉
2018/03/18 03:48:12
Kamikaze
vdvorn
Kamikaze
 
What would control 'Gain Fader in Kontact Blue?




Thank you for the help, but I have this option already checked, but the fader does not move.
How did you get this Gain faders? I can not find it in Options...




 
Do you mean, 'how do you view the gain faders?'

I have no idea how to automate them though
2018/03/18 03:51:49
vdvorn
Kamikaze
 
 
Do you mean, 'how do you view the gain faders?'
 
I have no idea how to automate them though




Thanks. So, when you move the gain faders, your master volume slider is also moving? In my case it doesn't work...
 
Wow! I have one more volume in Master view. And it is set to 33 percent. And when I move it nothing changes.
 
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